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Started by ragecage23, April 11, 2015, 05:57:05 PM

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ragecage23

What a frustrating time I'm having with this bike. It's a 2009 GS500F. I took the carbs off and brought them to a bike shop to have them overhauled since they'd been sitting for three years with fuel in them. When I get them back 8 days later I suddenly don't have enough hoses for all ports coming off the carbs. Things look like they've been put on backwards and on the wrong spot, but I'm not entirely sure.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

ragecage23

Tomorrow morning I'll post pictures of the ports in confused about, but in the mean time if anyone has pictures of either useful diagrams or of their own bike that would be helpful.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

nickxedge

Here's the picture that everyone lives by. Tough to read at first, for me anyway, but stare at it and your bike long enough and it'll make sense. Then take a break and look at it a week later and it'll all make perfect sense.

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ragecage23

Is that for all the fuel lines?
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

ragecage23

I just bought a Haynes manual for up to the '08 model. Hopefully that will help a little.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

gsJack

Quote from: ragecage23 on April 11, 2015, 10:58:30 PM
Is that for all the fuel lines?

That's for 89-00 fuel lines, there are 3 different frame petcocks used over the years.  All years have same tank petcock:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/GS500fuelcocks_zpsfcb7992c.jpg
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

ragecage23

I have this going to...

...here

where are the hoses for these? I know that both gold ports connect to a T and then go off somewhere, but where?

are the grey plastic parts on backwards?

is the clamp on the bottom on the wrong side?

and does this look right so far?


sorry for the large photos.
I'll be able to take more on Tuesday. This is how I got the carbs back from the shop and since I was smart enough not to take photos before I gave them in I'm not sure what's right or not. The manual I bought should be coming in on Friday.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

J_Walker

the fuel line is in the right place, from the petcock to the carbs. though my neck hurts a little..  :cry:

but your carbs has a bunch of extra doo-daas on them.. and I don't really know what im looking at. lol

one thing I did notice, is the choke cable is on the front of the carbs??? wut when did that happen?  :sad:

also those two extra brass parts at the bottom, are some sort of return lines.. I would guess.

also looks like your missing a lot of vacuum related hoses.. those two white funky plastic bits ontop, those normally have a rubber hose between them connecting them together.



-I would find what you don't/do need to actually just RUN the bike, and remove the rest of the crap if it was me...
-Walker

ragecage23

Choke cable is still in the back I just have the carbs turned around. It is a California bike so I've heard there are extra hoses.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

ragecage23

#9
so I'm guessing this is the "vacuum (to left carb) nipple?


Is this is the "vent hose from upper T connection" nipple?


So what's this nipple in the middle?
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

MeeLee

You can't plug the vent hole.
I've tried it on mine, and I believe my engine stalled. I think it's a vacuum hose.
Not good to keep it like that.
I have a small rubber tube connected to it, with a filter at the end.
The filter was completely rotten, and I replaced it with a household sponge (yellow part of a yellow and green sponge), and it works fine.

Also I have a calif model.

Mine looked pretty much the same, but they removed a lot of hoses, and EGR, as it's not a requirement in my state, and improves performance mildly.
I probably will have to increase the jet size, as raising the needle gives me very low MPGs (I might have raised it too high though).

ragecage23

So the upper T connection should be connected to a tube with the filter at the end? And I live in California so this is also a California model.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

gsJack

Upper T is vent hose that runs over to between the air filter and battery as shown in 3rd post pic above and it has open end and no filter.  Lower T receives the fuel line from the frame petcock.  Vacuum line to petcock goes to upper inside of left carb.  My 97 and 02 GSs didn't have the rest of that EPA junk so I'm not familiar with it.
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

ragecage23

It looks like it shows the vacuum line from upper inside is an open end as well, or am I seeing that wrong?
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

Suzuki Stevo

#14
This is normally plugged and is the port where you hook up a manometer for carb sync's. California Model...not sure what it's used for?
(Basically it's a primary vacuum port)

I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

rg500gamma

what city in California ?
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rg500gamma

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on April 14, 2015, 08:00:22 PM
This is normally plugged and is the port where you hook up a manometer for carb sync's. California Model...not sure what it's used for?
(Basically it's a primary vacuum port)


+1    yes I hooked up  manometer  to this port  as well , then got a longer plug from autozone  to make it easy for the next time  I sync  the carbs .
Some people   say  Disneyland  is the happiest place on earth ,  I say  Playboy  Mansion ..............

Suzuki Stevo

#17
A longer hose works too.

I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

ragecage23

So it doesn't need to have a hose connected to it?
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: ragecage23 on April 14, 2015, 08:32:51 PM
So it doesn't need to have a hose connected to it?

Not sure about the Cali model?? My '07 just had a plug there  :dunno_black:
I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

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