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Top end rattle

Started by kord_f, August 08, 2015, 12:41:25 PM

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kord_f

I have a rattle that sounds like it is coming from my top end.  I thought it may be from the valves being out of spec but after just having them adjusted it is still there.  It is most prevalent around 4-5k rpms and mainly when accelerating.  I sometimes hear it when holding speed but never really when decelerating.  Any ides of what it could be?

Watcher

Could be cam float.  Is it only when warm or at all times?
"The point of a journey is not to arrive..."

-Neil Peart

kord_f

Only while moving.  Doesn't rattle if I rev in neutral.

gsJack

Not cam float knock which is only when hot and only at idle and doesn't knock above 2k rpm. 

I had a vibration rattle in front maybe in instrument pod or headlight assembly or control cables at about 5k rpm under load in my 97 GS when new which I never identified and it went away after a short while and never returned.   :dunno_black:
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

Watcher

My gas tank rattles.  Could be that.  My tank was loose and I tightened the "clamp" on the front of the tank where it attaches to the frame.  Ever since it buzzes/rattles around 5k.

Been meaning to take it off and pad it a little, but with a tank bag on the tank no longer buzzes so it's something I'll fix if the tank comes off for some other reason...

Next time you're riding and you hear it put your hand on the tank and see if it stops.
"The point of a journey is not to arrive..."

-Neil Peart

kord_f

Tried putting my hand on the tank.  No dice.  I suppose it could be something harmless like Jack suggested.  Doesn't affect performance in any way so for now I'll just let it go.

Janx101

No big drama overall. .. but what SORT of rattle? ... deep and echoey,  sharp and tinny?, high pitch and vibratey? ....

Many kinds of rattle!

kord_f

Definitely more vibratey than anything else.

kord_f

After taking a long highway trip I have now noticed the rattle across the entire rev range.  And it appears to be getting louder.  Still only there when holding speed or accelerating but it is very consistent.

Janx101


kord_f

Both sprockets are pretty new. Could it be associated with the carbs?  I'm fairly certain they're not synced.  Just not sure if that could cause a vibration of any sort

kord_f

Both sprockets are pretty new. Could it be associated with the carbs?  I'm fairly certain they're not synced.  Just not sure if that could cause a vibration of any sort

Atesz792

Of course it could... 1 bang bigger than the other, not good for you, nor the crankshaft.
'04 GS500F with 50k miles updated July 2022.
Ride it like a 2 stroke:
1: Rev high
2: Add oil
3: Repeat

The Buddha

Synch affects low rpm, past 1/4 throttle you dont feel it usually.
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Watcher

Are you certain it's coming from the engine?

Can you tilt your head off the side of the bike while riding?  I notice when I lean off the seat in aggressive turns it does affect the perceived sound of the motorcycle.  My cams appear louder and such.

It might narrow it down left/right if anything.


Certain it's not the key?  Don't know how loud that could get, but I do know my lock cylinder is pretty worn out and my key will actually vibrate audibly at certain RPMs.  More of the kind of sound you'd expect a key vibrating to make, though.  At this point I'm just throwing ideas onto the wall and seeing what sticks...
"The point of a journey is not to arrive..."

-Neil Peart

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