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Started by The Buddha, June 23, 2004, 09:54:58 AM

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Kee

put me down for handlebars that fit on a 96. black powder coating would be nice too, but not necessary if it isn't going to be economical.

Thanks Srinath
I love YOU goes to college.

tt_four

Quote from: aplitzRight, cuz when I think handle bar I think plastic combs, I for one know my life is dependant on the structural intregity of my comb

man, just let it go already, the point we were trying to get across, is that there is nothing that can't be broken, even when it is labeled "unbreakable", it'll still break, you're just looking for someone to argue with

The Buddha

Powder coating will work this run, I think, I have that monstro number of case guards, which has been an on going project for soooooo looooong they all have a smattering of rust, so I cant just paint them, and that is the bulk of the quantity... and should cost OK for the bars.
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raylarrabee

please put me down for a set of case guards when/if you have enough.  Incidentally, I love the bars--the former owner put them on my '92 and they feel great.

I wish I knew how to weld...mmmm...welding...
Yellow 2000 Honda VFR800fi

The Buddha

Yea That Tricked 500 dude... he hasn't sent me the old bars yet. I am out of 4 bars of which 2 guys haven't even send it to get it fixed or asked for a replacement...  I am in touch with both... so not like somehting bad happened to them.
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chimivee

aplitz - I, for one, agree with the principle of your discussion.

Folks, he's pointing out the potential danger of the srinath bars.  The fact that the bars have broken on account of poor craftsmanship is a fact, whether it happens before/after a recall.  What if someone bought them then sold all his worldly possessions (no email, no phone), and toured the world on his little GS?

I'm not anti-Srinath bars, and I'm not saying don't buy them.  By all means support your local board member whenever possible.  Srinath should be respected for taking the measures he has to correct the problem.  But, likewise, aplitz should be respected for presenting his viewpoint and making people aware of potential safety issues.  Perhaps he seemed harsh, but it was well-thought and articulate response - not just random flames.  Besides, we all know Srinath likes a little controversy.

It's often easy to overlook the facts when there's something/someone we really want to believe in.  I think in another situation with similar potential consequences, many here would feel much differently.


That said, I've a feeling the 2nd generation bars will be indestructible.

Good luck!!!!
James

The Buddha

Quote from: chimivee<snip>  Besides, we all know Srinath likes a little controversy.

Good luck!!!!


Oh yea....  :guns:  :guns:  :guns:  Chimivee.
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chimivee

Quote from: seshadri_srinath

Oh yea....  :guns:  :guns:  :guns:  Chimivee.

:cheers:
James

aplitz

I was thinking about this today, and I wondered how everyone would feel if there were a rash of broken SM (or some other maker's) bars?  I would be livid, and I think everyone else would be too.  Just because this was a case of a well liked little guy with a good repuation making a mistake, it should not be glossed over or apologized away.  If I were Srinath I would be embarassed to have some of the people defending me that have spoken up, sine they apparently did not have rhetoric at their respective learning institutions, and thus do not understand the concepts of fallacy and successful argument.  Srinath himself has been a stand up guy, and I know that he will make sure that no more problems arise.  Best of luck.

Aaron

The Buddha

Hey man... the same argument applies to you too... You are also talking about things you have not seen. You said insert the rod and drill holes in the pieces and weld the rod to the outer tubing... when, that was exactly what I was doing. SM is a nameless face less corporation, or close enough. The bars they make for $140 I can make for under ~$80 a piece, and I know I am paying 2-3 times what they do for material, and probably 2-3 times what they pay for labor as well. I pretty much sell these for just about 20% more than waht they cost, and that doesn't actually include running around buying material and shipping these to people. I would like to hear points of view from people who have bought and used these. Both the set that broke and the ones I make now. The others have seen posts from both sides, and my pictures from before possibly ... and made their judgement. I dont see anything worng in that. The fact is... stand up little guy or not (hey when did I become little... I am 230+ lbs on a good day) I have put more facts on the table via pictures and information ... which SM or other nameless faceless corp  cannot compete with ... simply put ... there are no secrets in my set up. Hence people like it more. I have even offered to sell the pieces that need to be welded up... so you can take it to your preferred welder. Some people may take that option... though not in the exact sense I was aiming for...  :lol:
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aplitz

Srinath-

If yo remember I brought up this issue before in another thread.  I felt that you dodged the issue and I was left with the feeling that you still had some explaining to do.  So, I really came on hard and pushed the issue this time arround, fully acknowledging the fact that I did not know everything.  Still, it took several rounds of replies and pushing before the full explanation of everything came out.  No one (except you) could have known the full story, so I had to assume some fact based on what I could gather, expecting that I would be corrected.  Now that you defended yourself and your product, I have a better feeling about the situation.

Aaron

The Buddha

The rod in and welded to both sides were well documented in pics and text I posted a few months back. But I did not use the word Plug welded... that is courtesy you.
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