Just to share for anyone interested. The dash indicator bulbs are number "74's" and the speedo/tach bulbs are "194's." The blinkers are "1156's" and the tail/brake lamps are "1157's." These are the numbers that Super Bright LED's uses for bulb replacement/conversion selection. I'll let you know which actual end bulb part numbers I end up getting. Keep the rubber side down.

People need to confirm their own specs from country to country....i know the dash lights differ in Oz bikes,but the rest seem fine.
Helpful post though man.

Make sure u get one of these if you want your flasher indicator light to function properly...

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/motorcycle-accessories/metric-bike-diode-kit/1190/2805/

The 1157 LED taillight bulbs are useless, they simply do not work anywhere near as well as the standard globe. All those bulbs with banks of LED's cannot illuminate the tail lens properly. I recently purchased the http://www.amazon.com/Philips-1157-X-tremeVision-Exterior-light/dp/B00HWS7XGW that only have two tiny LED's in them and they did work better than the incandescents and do not have the problems of the LED's with multiple diodes.

However I deemed them to be less safe even though the brake light was a bit brighter and illuminated the lens as well as an incandescent. Why? Because the 5W running light was way too bright, meaning that  even with the 21W brake light being brighter, the difference between the running light and the brake light was greatly diminished.

Apparently the Honda OEM tail lamp is a 25% improvement on the standard incandescent. I will be check them out soon and I will report back here. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BFDIN0K/?tag=2402507-20

The LEDs probably draw less current. Could an LED strip be stuffed into the stock housing in parallel with the KED 1157s, to make the brake lights extra bright? Also, what about the license plate? How will it remain white, not red?

@Rallyfan, I don't think illuminating the license plate with a bright red light which comes out pink on the plate, while not strictly legal, is a problem. No one I've spoken to has ever been done for that and quite frankly it would be difficult to see a situation where it would be noticed.

I think those numbers are correct for my bike. 09 GS500F in Oz.

I recently replaced speedo/tacho and the 194 just fit but work perfectly. I stupidly bought 194 for all of the dash guage lights and they are too big 

Paid all that shipping to Oz and they are useless 

I believe the 74's would be the right fit but i don't want to risk wasting more money 

Have not yet looked at tail light and i have changed the indicators when i converted it to a naked recently.

You have a Jaycar Electronics store available at all? ... go there! They have suitable leds

Quote from: Cainus83 on March 29, 2016, 03:13:36 AM
I think those numbers are correct for my bike. 09 GS500F in Oz.

Paid all that shipping to Oz and they are useless 
I believe the 74's would be the right fit but i don't want to risk wasting more money 

It's been almost 3 years since i tried the dash conversion but i think your right about the 74's working.
I tried some(probably 194's) recommended by a member and they were too large.They then had to be returned to SuperBright who accepted them(in original packaging) without question.

Quote from: Janx101 on March 29, 2016, 03:32:41 AM
You have a Jaycar Electronics store available at all? ... go there! They have suitable leds

Thanks for the tip. I'll go check them out this weekend 

Been reading up a lot about led bulbs lately... searching and searching here on this forum for past threads and reading online...

Rallyfan, these are a bit pricey BUT it looks you weren't alone in worrying about that!! (In my case, my OCD would not be happy if I had a pinkish-red light on my license plate  ) ...SO these are pretty cool... red aims out, white aims down:
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/motorcycle-led-bulbs/1157-led-bulb-dual-function-25-led-motorcycle-bulb/170/

Cainus83, what about the 194's were too big? (For the indicator spots) I'm guessing too wide...?

These 74's are the ones I've been reading about... and if you look at the pic of the LED bulb next to a regular 74, the LED looks a tad (and I do mean a tad) longer but I'd guess they would work for the indicator lights ?
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/instrument-cluster-gauge/74-led-bulb-1-smd-led-miniature-wedge-retrofit-car/227/

Quote from: ShowBizWolf on March 29, 2016, 06:52:35 PM
Been reading up a lot about led bulbs lately... searching and searching here on this forum for past threads and reading online...

Rallyfan, these are a bit pricey BUT it looks you weren't alone in worrying about that!! (In my case, my OCD would not be happy if I had a pinkish-red light on my license plate  ) ...SO these are pretty cool... red aims out, white aims down:
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/motorcycle-led-bulbs/1157-led-bulb-dual-function-25-led-motorcycle-bulb/170/

Cainus83, what about the 194's were too big? (For the indicator spots) I'm guessing too wide...?

These 74's are the ones I've been reading about... and if you look at the pic of the LED bulb next to a regular 74, the LED looks a tad (and I do mean a tad) longer but I'd guess they would work for the indicator lights ?

The base of the bulb was far too wide, needed to be half the size. Looking at the specs on the 74's i think they would be correct. (oil/indicator/neutral etc)
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/instrument-cluster-gauge/74-led-bulb-1-smd-led-miniature-wedge-retrofit-car/227/

I used 4 of these for the dash indicators:

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/miniature-wedge-base/74-led-bulb-1-led-miniature-wedge-retrofit-car/226/1058/

2 of these for the guages (120 degree version):

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/miniature-wedge-base/194-led-bulb-1-led-miniature-wedge-retrofit-car/197/852/

They all work on my bike (modifications were needed for the turn indicator), just make sure you put them in the correct way, diodes have polarity.

Quote from: ShowBizWolf on March 29, 2016, 06:52:35 PM
Rallyfan, these are a bit pricey BUT it looks you weren't alone in worrying about that!! (In my case, my OCD would not be happy if I had a pinkish-red light on my license plate  ) ...SO these are pretty cool... red aims out, white aims down:
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/motorcycle-led-bulbs/1157-led-bulb-dual-function-25-led-motorcycle-bulb/170/

Thanks I've had a look... I'm quite tempted, but first what I'm going to do is try out conventional 2357 bulbs instead. I could use a more pronounced difference between tail and brake light intensities and this might do it.

Rally, let us know how it turns out? I'd like to know !

Joester, are you happy with those 194s' brightness? If you are happy with them then I think those are the ones I'll go with.

The switch from Wagner 1157 to GE Nighthawk 2357 in the tail lamp did not improve running lights but did improve brake lights in terms of intensity, which is what I wanted. I'd say it's $4 well spent. I kept the old bulbs under the seat in case of a burn-out.

That is marvelous that they worked for what you wanted! Hopefully the info you shared will help others who want to do the same thing 

@Rallyfan "I could use a more pronounced difference between tail and brake light intensities and this might do it."

That was my concern, which is why I got rid of the Philips Extreme Vision that I linked to in my earlier post, they are the only LEDs that work properly due to them having a point light source instead of a bank, but the running lights were too bright.

I'm currently waiting on delivery of the Honda OEM bulbs that I linked to that have the greatest difference between brake and running light. I also ordered the nighthawks to check them against but I'm expecting the Honda OEM's to be better, I'll post my thoughts when I get them but they are listed as 3/43 candlepower whereas the standard 5/21W is specified on the GS housing as 3/32 Candlepower so that's a decent increase in the brake/tail ratio.

That's an interesting experiment, great idea!

I'm just going to put this out there and say it directly. All the LED brake lights like the superbrights are going to be rubbish in the gs lens housing.


Except for the Philips Extreme Vision (and similarly designed Sylvania) because their design is completely different, so at least they aren't rubbish, but they don't provide the tail/brake ratio that is so important.