Gee Buddha..  someone hit your 'passionate about bikes' button eh! !

But. . Just for fun. .

" Mate of mine wants to get one of those teeny little pocket bikes. .. bobber it and race in the classic class" at the local go kart track" ... do you think he should use black electrical tape for the seat cover or go high end and use brown gaffa tape for the leather look? ...

Quote from: lucas on May 13, 2016, 09:07:34 AM
Haha I guess I like crappy bikes, cause I like the second one too! 

Im right there with you. i like the unprofessional look. I want something that looks like I built it myself. Now, not everything looks good ratted out. But to each their own.

As far as staying on topic. I cant imagine anything good coming from hard tailing the GS. i think some one mentioned it before, but the energy dispersion alone would have nuts and bolt falling off in no time.

The longer I'm apart of this forum the more I thoroughly enjoy Buddha's outlook on things. I usually agree with his rants. 
Iv'e always been of the thinking, if it's worth doing, then it's worth doing right. Different strokes for different folks though eh.

Quote from: TheGreenWeenie on May 14, 2016, 04:55:28 PM

Quote from: lucas on May 13, 2016, 09:07:34 AM
Haha I guess I like crappy bikes, cause I like the second one too! 

Im right there with you. i like the unprofessional look. I want something that looks like I built it myself. Now, not everything looks good ratted out. But to each their own.

I aint no professional, I'm a software engineer. I cant imagine being less suited to do this - OK fine I could be an accountant. OK but I am just a computerized accountant.

There is unprofessional looking, and retarded looking. Separate things, you can skirt the line, but its easy tpo drop into the retard abyss.

Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: The fink on May 15, 2016, 04:34:33 AM
The longer I'm apart of this forum the more I thoroughly enjoy Buddha's outlook on things. I usually agree with his rants. 
Iv'e always been of the thinking, if it's worth doing, then it's worth doing right. Different strokes for different folks though eh.

Doing something right, doesn't always have to equate to doing it perfect, if that makes sense. 

I'm all for customizing a bike to suite ones own needs, believe me. As far as I'm concerned, if it's safe it's ok in my book. What irks me is when people customize a bike to the point of no return and then try to sell it for top dollar. "I've spent 1000 hours working on this $500 bike, so that justifies the asking price of $8000!". No....no, really it doesn't work that way.

Quote from: TheGreenWeenie on May 15, 2016, 03:54:06 PM

Quote from: The fink on May 15, 2016, 04:34:33 AM
The longer I'm apart of this forum the more I thoroughly enjoy Buddha's outlook on things. I usually agree with his rants. 
Iv'e always been of the thinking, if it's worth doing, then it's worth doing right. Different strokes for different folks though eh.

Doing something right, doesn't always have to equate to doing it perfect, if that makes sense.

Yeah I think I follow. Different people have different ideas of what "right" is as well.

Quote from: Big Rich on May 15, 2016, 04:20:45 PM
I'm all for customizing a bike to suite ones own needs, believe me. As far as I'm concerned, if it's safe it's ok in my book. What irks me is when people customize a bike to the point of no return and then try to sell it for top dollar. "I've spent 1000 hours working on this $500 bike, so that justifies the asking price of $8000!". No....no, really it doesn't work that way.

Or count a crash repair as "customization" ...
Or turn it into something it was never intended to be. Like a 4 cyl 750 into a café. WTF, from the side, looks like a billion $$$, from front or back, it looks like a Mammut or an amazon.

Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: The Buddha on May 16, 2016, 11:42:37 AM

Quote from: Big Rich on May 15, 2016, 04:20:45 PM
I'm all for customizing a bike to suite ones own needs, believe me. As far as I'm concerned, if it's safe it's ok in my book. What irks me is when people customize a bike to the point of no return and then try to sell it for top dollar. "I've spent 1000 hours working on this $500 bike, so that justifies the asking price of $8000!". No....no, really it doesn't work that way.

Or count a crash repair as "customization" ...
Or turn it into something it was never intended to be. Like a 4 cyl 750 into a café. WTF, from the side, looks like a billion $$$, from front or back, it looks like a Mammut or an amazon.

Cool.
Buddha.

I'll agree on that first point. I see guys all the time who are like, " got these sweet new levers, grips mirrors and turn signals.."
okay, cool.. I'm guessing it's cause your dropped it and broke all the previous parts, haha!


As for the second part... 750 make great cafes! I don't know what a Mammut is, but they sound AWESOME 

4 cyl's as cafe's look terrible from the back or front.

Mammut is a weird a$$ east german car/bike basterd child -

http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-german-motorcycles/clymer-munch-mammoth-zm0z14mazbea.aspx

BTW the pic does not do justice to how huge it is.

Amazon was a VW engine equipped bike -

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Custom%20Bikes/amazonas_1600.htm

Cafe's are supposed to be skinny and like barely even show a motor. Or even a frame. The perimeter frame gets in the way of a good GS café. In fact a factory made café - MZ scorpion - I know, I own 2 of those, still looks stupid. And its a german/brit/jap basterd with a 1 cyl 660cc 5 valve Yamaha motor. Still looks off to me. Perimeter frame doesn't work on a café IMHO. But nothing as stupid as a big a$$ 4 cyl motor.

Cool.
Buddha.

That Mammut story was really interesting, so much has changed yet some things never will.  Like the obsessive need to haul ass. 

Attractive bike as well.

Quote from: The Buddha on May 17, 2016, 05:38:27 AM
4 cyl's as cafe's look terrible from the back or front.

Mammut is a weird a$$ east german car/bike basterd child -

http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-german-motorcycles/clymer-munch-mammoth-zm0z14mazbea.aspx

BTW the pic does not do justice to how huge it is.

Amazon was a VW engine equipped bike -

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Custom%20Bikes/amazonas_1600.htm

Cafe's are supposed to be skinny and like barely even show a motor. Or even a frame. The perimeter frame gets in the way of a good GS café. In fact a factory made café - MZ scorpion - I know, I own 2 of those, still looks stupid. And its a german/brit/jap basterd with a 1 cyl 660cc 5 valve Yamaha motor. Still looks off to me. Perimeter frame doesn't work on a café IMHO. But nothing as stupid as a big a$$ 4 cyl motor.

Cool.
Buddha.

For me a cafe is not just about looks. It's about making it faster, lighter, more aggressive than what it was meant to be. Yes, some bikes may look more "Cafe" than others, but that's what I, and many other like about custom bikes. There doesn't need to be a specified way to do it.

As for that Mammut, i'd take one of those in a heartbeat, that thing is awesome.  Ha ha. 

You 2 do know that a Mammut and an amazonas are both going to get their butt's handed to them with anything bigger than a GS right.
I mean an SV650 will do.
And look a lot better in the process.

Cool.
Buddha.

Cafe racers... kind of a former era technology and shape thing... back in the days of drum brakes, skinny tyres and shiny proper chrome! ...

Maybe for the concept of paring down the modern wide frame bikes to their essence.... requires a slightly different term? .. (and it'll help Buddha avoid sleepless nights over terminology being applied incongruously! Lol)

Diet bike...... slimlined bike..... burgershop banshee...... banshee racer ..... Bogey(man) racer ...... cappuccino racer (like cafe but with creamy flavor and tasty extras) ....

Other suggestions?

Poor man's race rep, and record racer.

Ya know, it's funny..... the older British folks that actually lived and rode back in that era never called them anything special. They just wanted to ride fast.

Quote from: The Buddha on May 17, 2016, 12:39:14 PM
You 2 do know that a Mammut and an amazonas are both going to get their butt's handed to them with anything bigger than a GS right.
I mean an SV650 will do.
And look a lot better in the process.

Cool.
Buddha.

Haters gon hate

Quote from: Big Rich on May 17, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
Poor man's race rep, and record racer.

Ya know, it's funny..... the older British folks that actually lived and rode back in that era never called them anything special. They just wanted to ride fast.

True! ... maybe we should ask sledge!? .. he'll remember! ... probably....

Quote from: lucas on May 17, 2016, 04:45:45 PM

Haters gon hate

This attitude is used to paper over everything from Idiots who bought 20 houses in 10 states with no job and no income and no possible way of paying back the loans like Casey Serin to worthless untalented name recognition coat tail riding wanna be's like Ashlee Simpson to - I don't even know what or why she's famous other than her famous Butt has its own zip code cos she did anal with a basketball player - Kim Kardashiat.

Maybe haters gonna hate because its stupid and retarded and garbage.

BTW the Mammut and amazonas atleast has a novelty rarity thing going for it. They didn't build more than 10 of either of those I think.
That way, its far more rare than any of the others.

Cool.
Buddha.