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Anyone interested in a paint job write-up?

Started by redhenracing2, October 01, 2009, 11:49:58 AM

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redhenracing2

I caught criticism a while back for having spray painted my bike. Last weekend, I finally got it together and did it right, with satisfactory, professional looking results. I never did it before because I thought it would be expensive or it wouldnt turn out like I wanted it to, and I think many people think the same. I took many pictures along the way, and could share my personal experience and advice. Would it be a good idea to do a simple write-up of a basic, low-budget paint job?
Quote from: cozy on April 25, 2005, 11:03:14 AM
Try dropping down to 4 Oreos and set your pilot screw 3 turns out.

scottpA_GS



~ 1990 GS500E Project bike ~ Frame up restoration ~ Yosh exhaust, 89 clipons, ...more to come...

~ 98 Shadow ACE 750 ~ Black Straight Pipes ~ UNI Filter ~ Dyno Jet Stage 1 ~ Sissy Bar ~


lamahug

Yes, please do the write up and post some pics.  Winter is coming up and we all need something to do whilst the snow is on the ground.  So, if it's cheap and easy to paint a bike with your write up to guide us, maybe others will try painting their bikes.  8)

redhenracing2

Quote from: lamahug on October 01, 2009, 12:13:50 PM
Yes, please do the write up and post some pics.  Winter is coming up and we all need something to do whilst the snow is on the ground.  So, if it's cheap and easy to paint a bike with your write up to guide us, maybe others will try painting their bikes.  8)
Alright, I will get it together before long. Until then, here are some pics:

before (rattle-canned):


after:


Seems like a pretty good upgrade for $50 if you ask me.
Quote from: cozy on April 25, 2005, 11:03:14 AM
Try dropping down to 4 Oreos and set your pilot screw 3 turns out.

TonyKZ1

Looks much better and please post the write up.
Tony
1997 Yamaha Seca II - mostly stock, Racetech upgraded forks, FZ6R rear shock, Oxford Sports Style Heated Grips, Barkbusters Blizzard Cold Weather Handguards, a Scottoiler vSystem chain oiler. My Mileage Tracker Page.

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psyber_0ptix

larger pics please...then we can be the judge of quality

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44878.0

k6 GSXR f/e
k1-3 front wheel
Hayabusa rotors
WORKS Racing Rear Shock
K&N, Yosh, rejet
Chopped rear, zx636 integrated tail light
Katana/SV650 Rear wheel

inexplicable718

#7
You did the whole thing for 50 dollar paint? not bad..

inexplicable718

oh btw i liked ur bike in black color better but thats just me...... black is HOT

JEREMY JOCK

I'm intersted to see these pics when I get home from work. I was also considering painting my GS all black this winter, haha.

DoD#i

Quote from: redhenracing2 on October 01, 2009, 12:19:33 PM
Seems like a pretty good upgrade for $50 if you ask me.

...assuming you have access to a few hundred/thousand dollars of equipment, perhaps? Awaiting write-up, but content with my $10 rattlecan job for now. Toss it on the wiki, too (it could use it) but I'd appreciate it if it was an add on rather than total replace of the rattlecan instructions there last time I looked, which I suspect are still going to be of use to some folks.

Quote from: inexplicable718 on October 01, 2009, 06:06:34 PM
Right now mine is orange and black....dunno...maybe i should leave it as it is?  but there are some scratches so if i paint it then it will look better?

The orange/black GS looks good the way it is, but nicer paintjobs have been painted black, and it's your bike... But a few scratches that don't show up in pictures is a terrible reason to repaint a bike with a factory paintjob, especially when you're likely to add a few more. And just how rusty is that chain, inexplicable? Looks like a good canidate for replace chain and sprockets - at bare minimum, grease the poor thing, but usually when they have been neglected for long enough to look like that, it's time to get a new set. Check the splines on the drive sprocket and grease that too.
1990 GS500EL - with moderately-ugly paintjob.
1982 XJ650LJ -  off the road for slow repairs
AGATT - All Gear All The Time
"Ride a motorcycle.  Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces, The Environment, and Money.  Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!"
(from DoD#296)

inexplicable718

#11
Quote from: DoD#i on October 01, 2009, 07:19:21 PM
Quote from: redhenracing2 on October 01, 2009, 12:19:33 PM
Seems like a pretty good upgrade for $50 if you ask me.

...assuming you have access to a few hundred/thousand dollars of equipment, perhaps? Awaiting write-up, but content with my $10 rattlecan job for now. Toss it on the wiki, too (it could use it) but I'd appreciate it if it was an add on rather than total replace of the rattlecan instructions there last time I looked, which I suspect are still going to be of use to some folks.

Quote from: inexplicable718 on October 01, 2009, 06:06:34 PM
Right now mine is orange and black....dunno...maybe i should leave it as it is?  but there are some scratches so if i paint it then it will look better?

The orange/black GS looks good the way it is, but nicer paintjobs have been painted black, and it's your bike... But a few scratches that don't show up in pictures is a terrible reason to repaint a bike with a factory paintjob, especially when you're likely to add a few more. And just how rusty is that chain, inexplicable? Looks like a good canidate for replace chain and sprockets - at bare minimum, grease the poor thing, but usually when they have been neglected for long enough to look like that, it's time to get a new set. Check the splines on the drive sprocket and grease that too.

Yeah thats why i am not sure. i guess i will just leave it as it is since its already BAD AZZ... haha

DoD#i

Quote from: inexplicable718 on October 01, 2009, 07:27:34 PM
But i dont think i will change it unless it breaks on me. If it is working why change it, right?
...
How long do you think a rusty chain/sprockets is bound to last?

It's not a bicycle.

When you break a motorcycle chain, it can get ugly - the chain is a heavy chunk of metal, it's often moving at a good clip, and it almost always is going to break while you are accellerating. Sometimes the broken chain jams up under the front sprocket cover and causes additional damage.

Could last 10000 miles. Could break tomorrow. No way to know in advance.
1990 GS500EL - with moderately-ugly paintjob.
1982 XJ650LJ -  off the road for slow repairs
AGATT - All Gear All The Time
"Ride a motorcycle.  Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces, The Environment, and Money.  Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!"
(from DoD#296)

eralor

Full write up of a paint job for about 300 dollars worth of materials, equipment and 4-5 days of work. http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49919.0
08 F - Custom Paint, Fenderectomy

psyber_0ptix

Quote from: eralor on October 02, 2009, 09:17:27 AM
Full write up of a paint job for about 300 dollars worth of materials, equipment and 4-5 days of work. http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49919.0

i love your paint....can you do that to just my tank?  (as i have no other plastics on the bike)  :p

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44878.0

k6 GSXR f/e
k1-3 front wheel
Hayabusa rotors
WORKS Racing Rear Shock
K&N, Yosh, rejet
Chopped rear, zx636 integrated tail light
Katana/SV650 Rear wheel

eralor

if you ship it back and forth i can do it. i have purple dye, red dye and a bit of green left still. message me and we can talk about it.
08 F - Custom Paint, Fenderectomy

kml.krk

Quote from: inexplicable718 on October 01, 2009, 06:06:34 PM
You did the whole thing for 50 dollar paint? not bad.. i also want to change the color to black. Right now mine is orange and black....dunno...maybe i should leave it as it is?  but there are some scratches so if i paint it then it will look better? no idea


here is a pic

*removed for sake of space*

tell me what u guys think? would u leave it orange or color it black?
I'd leave it orange. It is quite unique, besides I do NOT like black bikes - they're invisible.

And rattle can black simply looks wrong, I know that there are fans of this type of paint here, but I am definitely not one of them.

But it's your bike and your decision - do whatever pleases YOU and not the others  :thumb:
Yellow 2004: K&N Lunchbox, Leo Vince SBK, 2005 GSXR Turn Signals, 20/65/147.5, 15T front sprocket, Progressive Springs etc...

"Bikes get you through times of no money better than money gets you through times of no bikes." - Phineas

redhenracing2

Quote from: DoD#i on October 01, 2009, 07:19:21 PM
...assuming you have access to a few hundred/thousand dollars of equipment, perhaps? Awaiting write-up, but content with my $10 rattlecan job for now. Toss it on the wiki, too (it could use it) but I'd appreciate it if it was an add on rather than total replace of the rattlecan instructions there last time I looked, which I suspect are still going to be of use to some folks.
The only things I already had on hand were a drill with a wire wheel attachment, some sandpaper, and the actual paint sprayer. I borrowed a compressor from a friend. Everything else was covered as such:

one quart of acrylic urethane paint= $30
urethane activator= $8
masking tape, sandpaper= ~$10

To go and buy a compressor specifically for this, I would find a bit excessive. Surely you know someone that has one you can borrow. As far as the actual gun, mine is a Husky that was about $40 so if you don't own one, know that Husky guarantees their stuff for life and this is a very good sprayer.

Here is a bigger, better picture. More close-ups and detailed pics will be in the write-up, I may have time to do it tonight.

Quote from: cozy on April 25, 2005, 11:03:14 AM
Try dropping down to 4 Oreos and set your pilot screw 3 turns out.

redhenracing2

Quote from: eralor on October 02, 2009, 09:17:27 AM
Full write up of a paint job for about 300 dollars worth of materials, equipment and 4-5 days of work. http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49919.0
As is stated in your thread, you are a professional and have been doing this for years. This was my first time using a spray gun, and I just thought it would be handy to see a budget paint job (that looks pretty darn good, if I may add) from an amateur's point of view.
Quote from: cozy on April 25, 2005, 11:03:14 AM
Try dropping down to 4 Oreos and set your pilot screw 3 turns out.

eralor

I did the write up so people who arent professionals could get the dirty details without all the guess work. And that was my first automotive paint job. I paint cabinets as a side job so "professional" is a VERY loosely used term when it comes to my painting skills. But I do have years of experience laying paint. Yours turned out very nicely and I do love green as you can tell. I say the two of us make a good example of first time auto paint done right.
08 F - Custom Paint, Fenderectomy

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