Rear shock question...

james2oh6 · January 16, 2010, 06:03:37 PM

so i just bought an 07 r6 rear shock and i want to replace my stock shock with it, does anyone know if it will fit right in or if i am going to need to mod it at all... thanks!

seamax · January 17, 2010, 12:55:10 AM

I put mine in today. Perfect fit with stock dogbones.

I wanted to raise my rear a little so I bought shorter dogbones and had to grind the swingarm.

BaltimoreGS · January 17, 2010, 05:56:47 AM

Cool info seamax, I'm planning to do the same conversion and was wondering about having to grind the swing arm. Couple questions: What color spring does your R6 shock have? I have a red one. I think I remember reading that there is also a yellow one and something is different between the 2. Do you run the stock airbox? Did the shock with the stock dog bones have the same seat height as the original GS shock? Thanks!

-Jessie

seamax · January 17, 2010, 11:03:53 AM

Quote from: BaltimoreGS on January 17, 2010, 05:56:47 AM
Cool info seamax, I'm planning to do the same conversion and was wondering about having to grind the swing arm. Couple questions: What color spring does your R6 shock have? I have a red one. I think I remember reading that there is also a yellow one and something is different between the 2. Do you run the stock airbox? Did the shock with the stock dog bones have the same seat height as the original GS shock? Thanks!

-Jessie

I have the red one. I run kn pods but I don't think the stock air box would get in the way because it looks like there is plenty of room from my pods to the shock. And the stock dog bones with the r6 shock has the same seat height.

BaltimoreGS · January 17, 2010, 03:34:00 PM

Thanks for the reply. Do you think you can post some pics? Also, did you re-use stock hardware?

- Jessie + Kay

seamax · January 17, 2010, 04:42:16 PM

What do you mean stock hardware? I installed the r6 shock with the stock bones and it fitted fine and with shorter bones it took some grinding.

dread_au · January 17, 2010, 05:06:08 PM

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49310.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49468.0

These 2 threads pretty much cover everything about the installation of the R6 shock. One by bluehaze and one by me

I am still using it and have done 12000kms on it and is still going strong.

BaltimoreGS · January 17, 2010, 09:01:16 PM

Quote from: dread_au on January 17, 2010, 05:06:08 PM
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49310.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49468.0

These 2 threads pretty much cover everything about the installation of the R6 shock. One by bluehaze and one by me I am still using it and have done 12000kms on it and is still going strong.

Thanks for the links but I had already read those threads which is what made me confused. Both of those posts said they had to grind the swingarm but seamax said he didn't have to with the stock dogbones. We are having the swingarm powdercoated and unfortunately I didn't think to test fit the shock before we tore the bike down. Obviously I don't want to have to find out I need to grind it after the powdercoating

Also seamax didn't mention about swapping bearing spacers, that's what I meant by "stock hardware". Sorry if I wasn't clear in my question.

-Jessie

dread_au · January 18, 2010, 05:35:19 AM

I would not put it on without the spacer. You can see the difference in one of my pictures. I think more have had to grind than not. At least 3 out of 4 that I know of. Happy to answer any questions as best as I can. Good luck

The Buddha · January 18, 2010, 07:23:12 AM

For simplicity of fit nothing beats a 600 katana shock ... I dunno why people have been hell bent on re inventing the wheel ... of course I am glad for the ones that did ... cos if we ever run out of katana to rob parts from I'll start hunting for an 007-08 R6 ... but well ... till then the throw it on and forget it fit of an Kat is fine with me.

BTW I have a R6 shock but remain a Kat 6 fan. I think the R6 shock is also not going to work as well, it had a different leverage factor in the R6 if I calculated it right.

Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: BaltimoreGS on January 17, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
Quote from: dread_au on January 17, 2010, 05:06:08 PM
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49310.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49468.0

These 2 threads pretty much cover everything about the installation of the R6 shock. One by bluehaze and one by me I am still using it and have done 12000kms on it and is still going strong.

Thanks for the links but I had already read those threads which is what made me confused. Both of those posts said they had to grind the swingarm but seamax said he didn't have to with the stock dogbones. We are having the swingarm powdercoated and unfortunately I didn't think to test fit the shock before we tore the bike down. Obviously I don't want to have to find out I need to grind it after the powdercoating Also seamax didn't mention about swapping bearing spacers, that's what I meant by "stock hardware". Sorry if I wasn't clear in my question.

-Jessie

cboling · January 18, 2010, 01:49:57 PM

Jesse:

All I can say is that I installed my shock (shock only, no dogbones, no linkage, no extras) onto the stock GS setup. Mine basically fit without any problems or modification to the swing arm. However, as some have noted, the spring does "touch" the swingarm and I have found that it also does this on my bike. It's not terrible and you can probably get by without doing anything but if you haven't already taken the swing arm to have it powder coated, grind it just to be safe.

If you have already sent it off, then the worst is, the last coil of the spring is going to "touch" the swingarm at full release. (Meaning on the center stand.) I have not noticed any ill affects of not grinding the swing arm but then again, I haven't taken it back apart to look.

Hope that helps.

seamax · January 18, 2010, 04:30:57 PM

Quote from: cboling on January 18, 2010, 01:49:57 PM
Jesse:

All I can say is that I installed my shock (shock only, no dogbones, no linkage, no extras) onto the stock GS setup. Mine basically fit without any problems or modification to the swing arm. However, as some have noted, the spring does "touch" the swingarm and I have found that it also does this on my bike. It's not terrible and you can probably get by without doing anything but if you haven't already taken the swing arm to have it powder coated, grind it just to be safe.

If you have already sent it off, then the worst is, the last coil of the spring is going to "touch" the swingarm at full release. (Meaning on the center stand.) I have not noticed any ill affects of not grinding the swing arm but then again, I haven't taken it back apart to look.

Hope that helps.

cbol is right. I put the stock bones back on to test this after reading that other peoples' swingarms were rubbing the last coil on the r6 shock. When I lift the bike up such as it would be on a center stand or the rear wheel is off the ground then the last coil would hit the swingarm but when under the bike's load or with me on it would not.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=51038.40

gregvhen · January 18, 2010, 05:35:33 PM

Quote from: seamax on January 17, 2010, 12:55:10 AM
I put mine in today. Perfect fit with stock dogbones.

I wanted to raise my rear a little so I bought shorter dogbones and had to grind the swingarm.

Where did you buy shorter dog bones? I can only ever find lowering links. or did you buy some that are spose to lower a differant bike but actually raise yours?

seamax · January 18, 2010, 06:09:36 PM

Quote from: gregvhen on January 18, 2010, 05:35:33 PM
Quote from: seamax on January 17, 2010, 12:55:10 AM
I put mine in today. Perfect fit with stock dogbones.

I wanted to raise my rear a little so I bought shorter dogbones and had to grind the swingarm.

Where did you buy shorter dog bones? I can only ever find lowering links. or did you buy some that are spose to lower a differant bike but actually raise yours?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raising-Riser-kit-GS500-GS-500-All-Years_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem41474afddaQQitemZ280368971226QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

I've bought 2 sets now from this guy. First set I sold to a member here since I got the gsxr shock and did not want to raise the bike more and the second I got last week so I could raise the bike with the r6 shock.

The Buddha · January 18, 2010, 07:29:52 PM

Side loading a shock may be the best way to kill it.
Full extension also happens on the road when you run over a pot hole. Its promptly followed by a slam down.
Cool.
Buddha.

gregvhen · January 18, 2010, 07:31:47 PM

what is side loading the shock?

gregvhen · January 18, 2010, 07:33:42 PM

Quote from: seamax on January 18, 2010, 06:09:36 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raising-Riser-kit-GS500-GS-500-All-Years_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem41474afddaQQitemZ280368971226QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
I've bought 2 sets now from this guy. First set I sold to a member here since I got the gsxr shock and did not want to raise the bike more and the second I got last week so I could raise the bike with the r6 shock.

25 bucks plus shipping? ill just make my own. How long are these? and did it really raise it 1.25 inches like the description says

BaltimoreGS · January 18, 2010, 07:44:46 PM

Thanks for all the info guys, we'll do some grinding before sending it off

-Jessie

seamax · January 18, 2010, 09:27:04 PM

An alternative also so that you might not need to grind too much swingarm is to grind off some of the lower spring coil.

The Buddha · January 19, 2010, 06:09:13 AM

Quote from: gregvhen on January 18, 2010, 07:31:47 PM
what is side loading the shock?

Any load other than straight up lengthwise ... There is a bushing with a teflon coating right where the chrome rod fits in to the hydraulic cyl. That teflon starts to wear and you blow the shock. Pushing it side ways will just create the wear by doing just that.
Wheel bearings too, they are really really hard to destroy with anything axial. But start pushing either race perpendicular and that is going t okill them in short order.
Cool.
Buddha.

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