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Started by tandersn9, July 10, 2011, 09:15:20 AM

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tandersn9

Yesterday my riding buddy who rides a Busa, we're on opposite ends of the power spectrum lol, were gonna go for a ride on one of our favorite twisty roads. Another friend of his who we'd never ridden with came along too, he rides a 2008+ R6. Anyway this time I was leading and were HAULING down the two mile straight section that leads to the twisties and the dude on the R6 was keeping up fine, but after we got into the turns he was no where to be seen.

Moral of the story, I think it's kind of a strange that some one a R6, probably the "raciest" 600, couldn't keep up with a gs500 and a busa in the turns


Anyone one else in here ever out ridden guys/girls on bigger bikes?
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fraze11

#1
Nice...but remember, you aren't beating the bike...your beating the rider ;)   The right rider on that bike would smoke you.

But I do love watching this every once in a while :)

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=55694.0
2009 GS500F, 2003 CBR F4i

tandersn9

Quote from: fraze11 on July 10, 2011, 09:18:38 AM
Nice...but remember, you aren't beating the bike...your beating the rider ;)   The right rider on that bike would smoke a GS.

But I do love watching this every once in a while :)

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=55694.0

haha yess I watched that video back when he posted it.

But that's exactly what I'm getting at, I guess I find it weird when some one has a bike like that and can't ride the crap out of it.
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crzydood17

#3
wow d1ck move man, you could of got that guy killed then you make fun of him... when you go out together you stay together and you stay at the speed of the slowest rider... some newbie on a r6 is like giving a 5 year old scissors running away from him and telling him to keep up...

you win the official d1ck award of the day...
2004 GS500F (Sold)
2001 GS500 (being torn apart)
1992 GS500E (being rebuilt)

tandersn9

#4
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 10, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
wow duck move man, you could of got that guy killed then you make fun of him... when you go out together you stay together and you stay at the speed of the slowest rider... some newbie on a r6 is like giving a 5 year old scissors running away from him and telling him to keep up...

you win the official duck award of the day...

Thing is he wasn't a newb he'd had bikes before. He took the road at his pace and did fine. Also it'd about a 8 or 10 minute road if that, not like we were out for miles and miles.
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fraze11

#5
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 10, 2011, 09:30:20 AM


you win the official d1ck award of the day...

Well, techincally since the guy on the R6 came in a little late it sounds to me as though he knew his limits and rode within them, so good on him.  I dont think theres anything particlualry wrong with the above.  People should know their limits and ride within them...and it looks like the guy on the R6 did...but you prolly should let new people in your group know you might tear off ahead and to not ride beyond their capabilities.  We do that when we head out with new guys.  

And just cuz you have a supersport doesnt mean you ride the snot out of it all the time ;)   Who knows...he coulda been laying back seeing what your skills were like ... next time if you ride with him you might be a blip in his rearview ;)
2009 GS500F, 2003 CBR F4i

tandersn9

Quote from: fraze11 on July 10, 2011, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 10, 2011, 09:30:20 AM


you win the official d1ck award of the day...

Well, techincally since the guy on the R6 came in a little late it sounds to me as though he knew his limits and rode within them, so good on him.  I dont think theres anything particlualry wrong with the above.  People should know their limits and ride within them...and it looks like the guy on the R6 did...but you prolly should let new people in your group know you might tear off ahead and to not ride beyond their capabilities.  We do that when we head out with new guys. 

Yea you're right, when we got back my friend said "maybe we should have told him that when we go out riding we really ride." Something to remember for next time. I know when I'm in a situation like that I keep it slow and don't try to keep up, I think he did the same.
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Ourea

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mister

Another consideration is, road knowledge. If you've ridden a road a dozen times you know lines, increasing/decreasing radius turns, etc. In short, what's around the next bend. A guy never been on that road before will, if he is smart, take it easy the first few times.

But yes, to answer your question, I have smoked a Kwaka liter bike. I could see in the mirrors he was cutting corners to keep up with me. When we go to the end he was sweating and said, "you really made me work for it, Mickey.

Michael
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lucifer_mr2

I had a guy on an R6 tell me that there was no way my bike was on the LAMS list.

Twisted

Quote from: crzydood17 on July 10, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
wow d1ck move man, you could of got that guy killed then you make fun of him... when you go out together you stay together and you stay at the speed of the slowest rider... some newbie on a r6 is like giving a 5 year old scissors running away from him and telling him to keep up...

you win the official d1ck award of the day...

Who said he was a newbie? Just cause he didn't "keep up" has nothing to do with riding ability. Maybe he was the more experienced of the bunch and was "riding his own ride" as we are taught in most motorcycle courses these days. I have been on many a group ride and I don't try and keep up with anyone nor do I expect anyone to keep up with me. I ride my own ride. So I guess you better hand one the "D1ck awards" this way then if that's your reasoning.

Unsane

Quote from: tandersn9 on July 10, 2011, 09:15:20 AM
Anyone one else in here ever embarrassed guys on bigger bikes?

I can beat my best mate on his TLR at the traffic lights - for about 15 meters! He has been riding for many years and still has not got a handle on the 1000cc V-Twin grunt off the line, but once the clutch is out its a different story! I am right on his tailpipes thru the corners though and sometimes I will make a sneaky mid-corner overtaking manouver but, as soon as his is upright again, its all over!

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2004 Suzuki GS500F
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2000 Suzuki TL1000R

Roxtar

not on the bike, but here's my little 1.8L wagon burning a few cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F04DBlnLUo&t=4m
i miss that car.

first is an impreza 2.5rs, followed by a mercedes sl500, then a mercedes cls550. earlier in the video is a 280z
2009 GS500F

Fry

I just love these stories....Nice Kill....But don't be fooled for one moment in thinking a POS GS500 is going to beat any of the race rep.

Rider probably sucked.

Maybe didn't know the area

Maybe just got a ticket and doesnt want another one

Has respect for the public road you were on and didn't want to endanger innocent people by speeding.

Maybe thought it was funny to let you beat the tar out of your bike, thinking you were beating him, just letting you go knowing he'd catch up...(My Favorite)

In the end, you, not the bike, beat him, and there are way to numerous possibilities to why you did so.
Have you learned the lessons only of those who admired you, and were tender with you, and stood aside for you? Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed passage with you?
Walt Whitman

redhawkdancing

I was smoking a new CBR600rr a couple of weeks ago. Guy had just bought the bike two days before. First street bike. Definately was the rider and not the ride that made the difference. 

pookiebear

Quote from: Unsane on July 11, 2011, 03:40:51 AM
Quote from: tandersn9 on July 10, 2011, 09:15:20 AM
Anyone one else in here ever embarrassed guys on bigger bikes?

I can beat my best mate on his TLR at the traffic lights - for about 15 meters! He has been riding for many years and still has not got a handle on the 1000cc V-Twin grunt off the line, but once the clutch is out its a different story! I am right on his tailpipes thru the corners though and sometimes I will make a sneaky mid-corner overtaking manouver but, as soon as his is upright again, its all over!

for the TLR he needs to start in 2nd with the revs already up. It will launch better and be less likely to loop! Tell him to weight the front, cover the clutch and start in 2nd. see if he can get off the line a little better that way.

scratch

Define "smoke".

But, in any case, I've "smoked" an '89 FRZ1000 on my 22hp '87 SRX250, going up seaside Hwy84.
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burning1

Quote from: tandersn9 on July 10, 2011, 09:15:20 AMMoral of the story, I think it's kind of a sad that some one a R6, probably the "raciest" 600, couldn't keep up with me on a gs500  :icon_rolleyes:


Anyone one else in here ever embarrassed guys on bigger bikes?

The mistake a lot of people make is thinking that ability comes from the bike. I learned to ride a motorcycle on highway 9 (popular central CA road), and one of my first observations was the reality that despite motorcycle's reputation for speed, it took some experience to ride anywhere close to as fast as I could in a car. I've met plenty of people on the street who ride sportbikes and would probably be better off (perhaps, faster even) on something with less of a track focus.

I'm the rider in the vid posted above, BTW... And most anyone could 'smoke' me on the street if they are willing to take enough risks. :)

Here's a newer vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlTtDLHIyY

First half is riding with the A group (Fastest guys,) at about 3:00, the video is with the B group (intermediate riders.) Some amazing riding @ 2:00 from the guy who passes me.

tandersn9

Quote from: Fry on July 11, 2011, 05:29:02 AM
I just love these stories....Nice Kill....But don't be fooled for one moment in thinking a POS GS500 is going to beat any of the race rep.


Let me set the record straight, I'm not saying that GS is a faster bike than a 600, 1000 etc, I'm asking if people here have out ridden people on sportier bikes, I thought that my original post implied this, but i guess not... :confused:



Side point, the dude was really cool, let me take his bike out for a spin, SOOOO MUCH FUN  :bowdown:
I like riding motorcycles

tandersn9

#19
^^ Great video!
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