killing the octane myth (next death is brands)

[ohgood]

I'd say we are trying to prove that scientific objective testing will (may) show quite different results, than subjective, I know my bike and I know what I feel type not scientific anecdotal info shows...

Unfortunately, it will also show who the real idiots are!

Cookie

[ohgood]

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at this point, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO PROVE ME WRONG PLEASE STEP UP and post your very own double blind test results for DEBUNKING THE BRAND OF GAS myth.

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please, no glossy brochures, no youtube rockumentaries, no regurgitation of little white lies. just simple observations of fact. i really can't wait to read how a user can "feel a real difference" after the test, and their pre/post test notions still matching.


but i'm afraid we already know the answer.

ok, who's ready to step up ?

[twocool]

Once again...a simple search of the Internet brings up a couple of blind tests.........for gas brand..........

NO DIFFERENCE was found among brands as to how cars ran.....

Cookie

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at this point, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO PROVE ME WRONG PLEASE STEP UP and post your very own double blind test results for DEBUNKING THE BRAND OF GAS myth.

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please, no glossy brochures, no youtube rockumentaries, no regurgitation of little white lies. just simple observations of fact. i really can't wait to read how a user can "feel a real difference" after the test, and their pre/post test notions still matching.


but i'm afraid we already know the answer.

ok, who's ready to step up ?

[ohgood]

Once again...a simple search of the Internet brings up a couple of blind tests.........for gas brand..........

NO DIFFERENCE was found among brands as to how cars ran.....

Cookie

i'm with you. this is a challenge for the gear heads that swear their butt-dyno says bp is better than conoco. or whatever.


the first one that can tell the difference between the supposed 'different' brands of fuel, gets a gift card for one gallon of race gas,


because it's a lie too. 

[RossLH]

OK....Here is candidate #1 for double blind test on Brands of fuel!


Are you in?


Cookie

Higher compression ratio engines tend to notice octane differences, my GS500 did not care from one grade to another for the most part. my GS750E Did, it also prefered  Amaco Gold (93) premium verses BP,mobil, exxon,tomthum or racetrak.    the GS500 did not like cheveron at all, didnt matter which station or grade.

Amaco 93oct and BP 93oct are literally the same thing. Same drills, same refineries, same pipelines, same damn company.

[nutmunk]

I pissed in my tank now the bike won't start. Should I use 95 or 98 to dilute the piss a bit?

Definitely ONLY premium-grade marine diesel with equal parts of russian bear vodka slippery.

Maybe a little bit of grit as well...it's great for polishing out crap inside your ports.

[slipperymongoose]

Finally a man with real world know how cheers mate.

[Blueknyt]

"Amaco 93oct and BP 93oct are literally the same thing. Same drills, same refineries, same pipelines, same damn company."

True enough these days, but back when i had my GS750, there was only one BP in my area that had bought out a former chevron station, just prior to amaco take over.  Im convinced the local homeless pissed into the tanks at that station. 

[Toiletbooger]

I have this argument all the time with my friend.
I just don't understand how he can justify putting in 98 octane fuel in his 1998 Toyota Camry, when the headlights don't work, the panels are all dinged up, the suspension clunks really bad, all the belts squeak and who knows when the oil was last changed.
"it cleans the engine" he says
try getting a damn service if you want the engine clean that bad

but then again he flogs it everywhere he goes, maybe he just likes to pretend he's in a race car. 

[slipperymongoose]

I'm having a hard time putting 98 in my car with these stupid prices.

[RossLH]

"it cleans the engine"

It...doesn't. E85 cleans the engine, tell him to fill up with that next time. Ever seen the internals of an engine that's been run strictly on E85 for 10k miles? You can see your reflection in the pistons.

[john]

Brands sometimes make a difference.  I would fill up with Valero unleaded and I would get a cylinder misfire code thrown and a check engine light.

Switched to another gas station and no error since.  Dealer could never find anything wrong and suggest switching brands.  I did not believe it would matter, but it seemed to have worked.

[ohgood]

Brands sometimes make a difference.  I would fill up with Valero unleaded and I would get a cylinder misfire code thrown and a check engine light.

Switched to another gas station and no error since.  Dealer could never find anything wrong and suggest switching brands.  I did not believe it would matter, but it seemed to have worked.

ya. my uncle c laimed some brand was crap for years. he switched to some other, said the engine light turned off.

then he found out the second attendant had put a gas cap on, instedad of replacing the rag in the filler tube.

[slipperymongoose]

Don't mock him hell come down with all power and fury

[ohgood]

Don't mock him hell come down with all power and fury

its not mocking.

its a rag not sealing like a gas cap does.

everyone has (or will have) a fillup of crappy gas, at a station. call it "ghost gas" because you can fill up all your buddies at the same pump, and only one of them gets it. fill up there for weeks, months, no problems.

the brand myth, is it sufficiently dead yet, or has -anyone- proven that one is better and I missed it ?

[slipperymongoose]

Bah you haven't posted any results or anyone else for the matter

[adidasguy]

One has to be better!
One has super-floobie-doo!
Another has super goble-dee-goop!
Shell is "nitrogen enhanced" Now that is for real! But what does that do? Air is 80% nitrogen and nitrogen is an inert gas. 

[slipperymongoose]

See addy knows

[Janx101]

reminds me of few years ago... a particular bottled water .... with 'added' oxygen to make you feel even better-er .... and come to think of it... in Darling Harbour ($$ tourist trap area) in Sydney NSW. one of the mall areas has a 'oxygen' bar ... you can sit and sniff the freshness... or with flavours .. and i think even a plastic bottle take home pack of flavoured air 

[ohgood]

Bah you haven't posted any results or anyone else for the matter

eggs zackery. we have to -prove- one is better. someone, somewhere, has proclaimed that they can 'feel a difference' when they use shell ultimate techron boobahpoobahpooo super octaint obliviolin RACE tech pooper fuel.


me, personally, i have never felt a difference in fuels, spark plugs (unless one is almost fouled) or air cleaners. sure, pour some water in it, or some oil, or some -whatever- and it might run like crap, but no one is going to see a difference in 86 SHELL or 106 FIREHORSE RACE SPECIAL BLEND. ever. if they claim to, lets see the test happen.



still, the clock tick tocks, and no one offers to prooooooooove they can.