i've found the most important thing (in a car anyway) engine swap it to LABEL EVERYTHING.  you THINK you will remember what bolt, harness, plug, connecter goes where, but 2 months later you WON'T remember....

hahahah.. I did that actually...  I put all the bolts from teh old engine, into the new one.  It's the hoses that I"m woried about, but i have a diagram for it on another page I think??  

Kerry, wanna show me that hose diagram u had again??

BTW.. anyone have a picture of the cables that hook up to the rear signals??  I got confused and lost where they go.. lol.. my signals are spliced.  any hlep?

Quote from: TeBoKerry, wanna show me that hose diagram u had again??

It's always available from a link on my home page, but here's the direct link.

hey kerry.. you seem to have the pictures to every single part of the bike..  Got pictures of the wires that mount to the rear signals??  are they different lookin' from Pre01 to 01+?  thanks a bunch

Unfortunately, because of my luggage racks I have had to move the turn signals up and back - so far that the wires can't reach the connectors on the wiring harness.  I have added homemade "extension wires" between the turn signals and the wiring harness.  But hopefully you can piece together the pictures that I just took and come to a definite conclusion.

Here is the location of the wiring harness connectors on the right side of my 2000 model.  The "extension wires" have regular, RED-sized bullet connectors crimped onto them.



Here is one of the wiring harness connectors that I cut off of the left side before I realized that they would accept the standard RED-sized bullet connectors:  



This is a stock 2004 (I think) turn signal.  I bought a full set from someone the board, but I haven't installed them yet.



And here is a close-up of the stock 2004 turn signal wire ends:



Finally, a picture showing that the 2004 wire ends fit into the pre-'01 wiring harness connectors.



But I'm not sure - did that answer your question?  :dunno:

I get it for the most part.. I just need to know what color the harness is on the motorcycle end now     thanks kerry

You may be in luck!  While looking through my photo collection for "Utah pictures" I ran across this shot of the left-side connectors on my old '96 BEFORE I cut them off. ( )

The wire colors from the wiring harness match the ones from the turn signal: one is all black and the other is black with a white stripe.



Do you have a pre-'01 or an '01+?

thanks !  that's what I needed.. heheh.. I have a '98, but I had to change the wiring harness to the 01 version to fit all the electronics properly.  thanks a bunch again=)

UPDATE::

well, got the NEW ENGINE IN! ! ! ! !  heheh.. after about 45 minutes of wrestling w/ it, taking it down, hoisting up, taking down, nudging here, kicking there, hoisting up, I finally wedged it (crowbar style) in.  got all the bolts in, surprised to have everything seemingly fine, got the carb on (but the airbox seems to not fit right..  might need a lil' elbow grease to get it in.  I got most of the wires on, (except the signal light wires and whatnot.)  Wrestled w/ the wire that comes from the clutch side for a while thinking "uh oh, they're all yellow wires from this engine."  finally figuring out, that my old wires still had the connector on it, not needing to splice anything.  

I tried to dry start it, to see if it even turns, but I didn't even get a click from when I pushed the ignition button..   :dunno: lights didn't dim, or anything.  any idea??  thanks a bunch for all you guys' help

oh still contemplating on why my old engine suddenly blows out of nowhere..  anyone think it could be because the bike was in storage for such a long time (5 yrs.), and I pulled it out of the box, and revved the $hn!tz out of it??  maybe I shoulda rebroken the engine in.  Definitely breaking this engine in b4 I try to do anything stupid on it

Quote from: TeBogot the NEW ENGINE IN! ! ! ! !

Wahoo!

Quote from: TeBoI tried to dry start it, to see if it even turns, but I didn't even get a click from when I pushed the ignition button..

Obvious stuff:

Ignition switch ON - Yep
Kill switch ON - ?
Clutch lever PULLED - ?
Sidestand UP (or in transmission in Neutral) - ?[/list:u]Other stuff:
Ground wire connected - Yep
Positive wire connected from + battery terminal to starer relay - Yep
Fuse OK - Yep
Sidestand switch connected OK - ?
Diode connected OK - ?
Starter relay OK - ?  (See

Haynes Starter Relay Test Procedure)[/list:u]If none of that helps, let's try again....

well I know she turns on, cuz the lights go on when I switch it in the on position.  Neutral light on and everything..  

Never tried to pull the clutch in..  my old bike started w/ the clutch lever never being pulled.  Could be cuz I was on the stand, but I thought I was in neutral.  I'll try again tomorrow

Kerry you are the MAN! ! !  !

did you connect the starter wire?

if the engine you just installed is Used and Not a Fresh rebuilt starting for the first time, then put good oil in it, rub the tank on the right side CCW then the stator cover CW while talking sweetly to it. Push the start button and drive it normaly.

Quote from: Blueknytdid you connect the starter wire?

Wouldn't the starter relay still click?  :dunno:

yeah, generaly, unless his system is back feeding through another means for power, the starting Circut might not be getting any feed. As unlikly as it sounds, ive seen it happen.   bike systems are funny, i can start Just about any one of them, have lights and everything with one small tiny 12v battery and never one put a key in the ignition. Or, just 2 wires with aligator clips and no extra batt. Back feed is funny.

I've connected all the wires I saw sticking from the engine..  The 2 that came out of the clutch side, the negative from the bottom of the engine, and the wires that came out of the stator (positive)....  I haven't installed any of the lights yet as well..  I highly doubt it's that either..  

I also noticed, that w/ the lights not installed, I check my signal left, and it blinks my guage light like normal. I click it right, and it doesn't..  wierd...

another stupid question.. what's the diode?

Quote from: TeBowhat's the diode?

A diode will let current flow in one direction and not in the other.  On my '99 the diode is attached to the wiring harness HERE:



I understand that on '89 models (and possibly other early years) it was in a different position.

If you're able read a wiring diagram you can get some general "connection" clues from this Haynes one.  The diode is in the upper center....

it was the relay..  so great to actually hear the bike TURN ! ! ! !  so yea, the engine turns at least.  I got excited, and put everything back together just enough to see if it'll start.  She winds up alright, except she wouldn't start.  It'll sound like it's about to turn over, but it doesn't.  there are a few things that I think might be the case.....

On the chassis side petcock, there was a 4th hole (all the way in the back, small hole.)  I don't know if anything goes on it...  (I'm thinkin' it's off the output side of the carb top line?)

advancer looks rusted..

I hear a sound when it turns, like a plastic ball in a coffee can, everytime I try to turn the ignition.


Things that I don't think would make a difference, but just might:  None of the lights are plugged in, and I'm really dumb at these things...

I'd put a half-teaspoon of oil into each cylinder (and some on each valve shim, if you can); leave the sparkplugs out, put the bike in 4th gear and turn the rear wheel with my hand.  You probably want to fix any rattling noises before the engine starts spinning and thousands of rpm.  Or you may find yourself shopping for another.

Can you post a pic of the right-side ignition?

I have a strong feeling that it has something to do w/ the opening on the petcock that I don't seem to know where it goes.  If I was sitting on the bike, it would be the one front side, to the farthest left (smallest opening.). . .  Anyone know where this goes??  Also could it be that I might need fresh gasoline??  Since the gas in my tank has been sitting for a month?