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Started by jefferygs500, March 30, 2006, 04:02:55 PM

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starwalt

Quote from: jefferygs500 on March 31, 2006, 11:04:06 AM
Explain a little more please..
Our friend Srinath is referring to this connection:
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I painted my battery box with red Plastidip, so you won't find that on your bike.
This is the combo cable that connects to the negative of your battery. The smaller plastic connector is the wiring harness ground (earth, return) connection to the Ignition Module.

The big part of the cable runs to the bottom of your engine where, as werase643 pointed out, you should have a clean, non-painted, non-greasy point to connect to the engine. Even with that clean, you could have a bad "frame ground" via the mounting bolts.
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jefferygs500

i started the bike up in the building. and i noticed that the left side of the engine gets really hot, but the right side doesn't get near as hot. Is this common??? or could this be the cause of the loss of power. thanks. could this be a head gasket gone?
Thanks for everyone's help.

The Buddha

OK Head gasket ... do this ... start it up and put your face especially your eyes right in the middle part of the motor ... sorta eye level with the float bowls in the carb ... OK stay that way and rev it ... now if you still can see out of your eyes ... you're good.
Its electrical and the crank trigger and the ground are the only cuplrits. Oh yea the famous kerry problem, connections on the crank trigger to wiring harness ... Yea that too ...
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jefferygs500

hey thanks alot, what about the people before told me about the doing the sync to the carbs. i found the screw. How many turns should this be out for stock jets
thanks
Thanks for everyone's help.

The Buddha

Quote from: jefferygs500 on March 31, 2006, 05:26:15 PM
hey thanks alot, what about the people before told me about the doing the sync to the carbs. i found the screw. How many turns should this be out for stock jets
thanks

What ... carb synch is different ... its synching vacuum, and you're talking about turning out the air mix screws, and with stock jets ... I'll guess 32 turns after it falls out should be about right ...
OK since you're clueless ... Yea its impossible to get the mix screws to where it even runs right with stock jets. In any case ... synching isn't your problem ... it may run like crap but it will run on 2 ...
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JamesG

Jeff stop!

Put the screwdriver down!

Take the bike to the shop/dealer. Let them fix it and get it running and rideable for you.

Sorry dude but you are apparently in over your head. A streetbike, even a simple one like a GS is alot more complicated and the margin or error much smaller than for dirtbikes. There are lots of things on a motorcycle that have to be right for it to be safe.

Just don't want to see you get hurt or the bike so fouled up that you throw it in the street and set it on fire in frustration.
James Greeson
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jefferygs500

what??? I never done nothing like that??? A person a while back in the post told me to do it. I knew i couldn't do it, jsut wanted to no what it was meant by it.. listen guys,, I called the dealer they told me $600 to fix it, and they didn't even no what it was. so thats way to much. if you guys tell me i no me and dad can fix this... thanks guys. this really does suck. like i said, the bike is perject on the center stand. you can notice the bogginess on the levels, but you can barly make it up any hills. thanks
Thanks for everyone's help.

JamesG

Ok if you can't afford to have a shop fix it up...

The first thing you should do before even looking at the bike again is to buy the repair manual for it, either factory Suzuki or the Clymers (preferably).

Then READ the book. 
Cover to cover. 
Then have your Pop read it too.

Thus armed with the knowledge of the clever little Japanese people who built the bike, then try to fix it.
James Greeson
GS Posse
WERA #306

The Buddha

Where are you ... bring it to my house and I'll guarantee you will ride it back to yours ... In am in NC.
BTW your battery is probably flopping back and hitting the positive to ground ... or you got no fuel in the bowls ... Level ground its fine and its bad up hill ... how is it down hill.
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Rema1000

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Quote from: Rema1000 on March 30, 2006, 08:05:34 PM
Wasn't there a problem, where the little ground wire to the battery breaks/comes loose, then you only get one coil firing?


I was referring to LCDS (Left Cylinder Dysfunction Syndrome), described by Starwalt here:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24219.msg248537#msg248537

...but I guess that would cause the left cylinder to stop firing; not the right cylinder.
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jefferygs500

hey, she is at the worst on the hills. Like i said on the stand in the building Wicckit. on the Levels. you can deff notice the problem. down hills is better. she won't even make it up any size hill with 2 small people. like she lugging herself up. thanks
Thanks for everyone's help.

jefferygs500

could the MAGNETA do this to the bike???
Thanks for everyone's help.

ccmbobcat

I would bet you ten dollars that the main jets have a small piece of dirt in them. I had a 600 radian would rev right to red line in neutral but with a load on it, it would not rev past 5.5 and would not go past 60 km hour. took off the carbs and the main jet was sitting in the bottom of the bowl. last owner did not tighten them after cleaning the carbs. just worked it self out. coils either work or dont so it would not run right at any time. carbs should not get that bad out of sinc buy just taking them off.

Alphamazing

Could clogged jets cause one cylinder to run lean and misfire, while the other one remain fine?
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ccmbobcat

yes you have two carbs and two cylinders. One carb does one cylinder so if the main jet in one carb is bad then that cylinder will not work properly and if the other is clean then that cylinder will work fine.

Main jet does top end about 4000-5000 to red line
pilot jet idol to about 5000 rpm

Birdmove

    Have you vrified that you are getting gasoline to both carbs? As in-turn on the petcock and loosen or remove the float bowl drain plugs and you should get gas draining out.Or, when  the engine is cold-start it up and carefully touch the exhaust pipes near the head. Do they both get hot? Or is one way colder? I believe you said you had the engine out of the frame? Are the fuel lines hooked up properly? Are the wires all hooked up properly? You do need a manual.

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jefferygs500

hey guys, ya this is almost a month now, and i still haven't figured it out. nothing at all. Ummm i'm going to try to explain it alittle better for yas. Like i said, cost me 600-700 for my dealer thats way to much. Umm i'm taking my carbs off and giving them to my friend he's going to check them all over, he said he'll no he's good around that stuff... but i checked them and i cleaned them all anyways here wa it is. Took it out again for a drive. When going 80-90 km's she's revving around 6200 rpms. kk coming up my gravel driveway... just a little slope, i slow down to about 20 km's in first, turn the throttle, the bike just bogs and slowly goes, the back tire won't even make a mark in the gravel. parked the bike, and came out again, i find it kinda hard to start stubborn. Lots of fire, when the bike is going and i pull of the plug caps, you can deff notice the difference in sound. anyways hope this help thanks. I was thinking maybe a low battery would cause this not sure tho, thanks guys
Thanks for everyone's help.

jefferygs500

Thanks for everyone's help.

Toledo Jim

Air filter maybe? (At least I'm trying something different)  :dunno_white:

I don't really know, but, I washed my 93 GS at a carwash the other day and got the air filter wet,  :icon_rolleyes: (yeah, I'm a clutz) and it didn't want to start, or run right after it did start  :2guns: till I got the filter dried out. Maybe yours has a problem?


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