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Break-in period with new rings

Started by facepants, April 10, 2007, 09:49:24 AM

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facepants

I had my cylinders deglazed and installed new rings.  What (if any) are the break-in procedures I should follow with the new rings?

How long will they take to properly seat?

Thanks

Jace009gs

it is the same as if the engine was off the show room floor. Just like the bike was new.
Motorcycle's are God's greatest creation; turning gas into noise with acceleration & power as side effects

TragicImage

under 5500rpm for the first 500 miles.




Or there is always the other method......
Impeach Pandy

2006 GS500F


Hipocracy.... becoming more acceptable with the more power you think you have.

D-Day

Quote from: facepants on April 10, 2007, 09:49:24 AM
I had my cylinders deglazed and installed new rings.  What (if any) are the break-in procedures I should follow with the new rings?

How long will they take to properly seat?

Thanks

You can all flame away, but, since it is rings only, not pistons and rings, the most critical thing to do is get the rings to seat.  To do this you need high combustion pressure, i.e. large throttle openings. So you need to give it large amounts of throttle for short amounts of time, followed by closed throttle.  This will allow the top ring to be forced against the cylinder, so it can seat.  By keeping the periods of wide open short, you will not overheat the rings.  By closing the throttle, you will rapidly cool the cylinder, thus keeping the rings cooler.  I would not be as concerned about max rpms, not taking as long (in miles) as the manual would have you do for a new engine.

We used to break in race motors in about 30 minutes, so it isn't like you need athousand  miles even for a street motor.
"so quick old, so slow smart"

dgyver

+1 on what Paul said.

I have had plenty of motor builders recommend the same. Breaking a motor in at the track was the best place due to the on/off throttle.
Common sense in not very common.

Cozzy

A crash is the result of the rider's mistake, so don't blame the bike

A rider should be able to control the bike but not controlled by the bike, becuase on the track you don't want to DNF and on the road you don't want to lose you licence

facepants

Quote from: D-Day on April 10, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
By closing the throttle, you will rapidly cool the cylinder, thus keeping the rings cooler.

Do you mean just closing the throttle and not pulling in the clutch?

If so, does that mean engine breaking would cool the engine more than closing the throttle and pulling in the clutch?

werase643

why would you think just pulling in the clutch would cool the engine....????
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

facepants

Because I'm not pumping in and igniting gas at 9000rpms ?

Less fire = less heat... no?

ohgood

i 'broke in' a mazda motor by immediately jumping small spillway grades, oh , and running over trash cans.

it only took about 20 minutes WOT for it to stop smoking like a tar kettle (rings seated, yay!).

the truck ran for another 120,000 miles this way, until the next owner WOT'd it into a traffic barrier.

all things being equal, if the stupid thing starts, runs and doesnt explode, why overthink the rest of it ?  :thumb:


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

D-Day

Quote from: facepants on May 05, 2007, 06:18:57 PM
Because I'm not pumping in and igniting gas at 9000rpms ?

Less fire = less heat... no?

What you are doing is pumping lots of cool air, plus at higher rpms and closed throttle, more oil is on the cylinder walls, helping to reduce friction and heat.
"so quick old, so slow smart"

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