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Am I doing something wrong? Pic. Updated with bent spacer pic.

Started by Agno, August 24, 2008, 01:29:20 PM

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Agno



Using Buddha's slide hammer.  Doesn't want to budge.  Am I doing something wrong?  Should I try the bolt and spacer technique?
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
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16 KTM 500 exc

The Buddha

You shouldn't just be pulling on it, you need to be hammering it out.
BTW that much duct tape ??? why, just clang metal to metal ... make sure it has a large washer there, dont want it comming out. Doubt it  ... but ...
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Agno

Oh trust me, I hammered the thing.  Even had my monsterous roommate give it a tug or two.  Nothing.

And as far as the duct tape, It was on there when it came from Astroaru so I just left it.  Started to take off a bit but it was a sticky mess.

You think some penetrating oil or something like it would help?
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

DoD#i

I don't know the particular instance of the tool, but it's not obvious that you have anything in position to hammer OUT on. Unless there is a stop hidden in that mass of duct tape, it looks as though a bolt or other type of cross-bar should be installed in the outer set of holes I can see.

The duct tape may be impairing function by padding the sharp impacts.

While there have been reports of one hit removal, persistence often pays when the hammering arts intersect with stubborn parts. Wear earplugs and don't do it when your neighbors are trying to sleep. Rather than trying to yank it in one titantic blow, just keep tapping it out and don't give up.
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Agno

DoD,   Yes, there is a stop and the contact is pretty much metal to metal.  After several dozen full-power smacks on the thing and zero movement(that I can perceive anyway) I started to worry that I may be doing damage to parts unseen.

I made a spacer yesterday and will be buying a bolt to fit 14mm threads of the rotor today.  Going to see if I cant get some movement with the bolt and spacer method.  Wish me luck!
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

The Buddha

OK The hammer has failed, now .... it failed on the first instance I used the thing too, cos my threads shredded on the rotor.
You have an obvious problem there though agno. I had to have mine in the back of my truck and strapped in tight ... else it would have fallen on me.
Bolt and spacer method ... yea ... if you can keep the motor from turning ... yea ... this worked better than that on mine atleast.
I eventually had to weld in a bolt and smack it and it came off second try. After all the heat of welding ... yeow.
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astroaru

no way guys. The hammer has not failed. Just use a good washer in between. The washer I used got crushed in the final pull it got the rotor out. Even better use a wrench in between so that serves as a washer. You know what I mean?

starwalt

#7
If you can heat the rotor around the area of the crankshaft it may help.

I used a hot air gun on the 1000 degree setting but..don't catch the bike on fire.  :o

One bump and mine came off.
It was stupid easy but that was mine and that was then.

With all that duct tape on there it looks like Red Green created that thing.
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The Buddha

Maybe red green did ... :thumb:

Mine took a few hits, and I had it strapped in the back of my truck, else I'd have had it fall on me. I stripped the threads hitting it, then welded up a bolt and then hit it and it came loose.
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Agno

Finally got around to working on the bike after my recent move. 

I had a torch ready to use if the bolt and spacer method didn't work.

The rotor shot about 2 feet, landing on the ground.

Here is a pic of the severely bent spacer I used.  Should have gone with a thicker piece or a stronger piece because I wasn't sure that I was going to be able to get the sucker out.

But after some work:

91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

Agno

Forgot to mention that the Magical Mystery slidehammer of the Buddha is open for circulation.  PM me if you want it.
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

astroaru

Quote from: Agno on September 25, 2008, 10:10:19 PM
Finally got around to working on the bike after my recent move. 

I had a torch ready to use if the bolt and spacer method didn't work.

The rotor shot about 2 feet, landing on the ground.

Here is a pic of the severely bent spacer I used.  Should have gone with a thicker piece or a stronger piece because I wasn't sure that I was going to be able to get the sucker out.

But after some work:



holy shaZam!. the metal looks like it yielded :)

ohgood

i haven't had mine off yet so correct me if i'm wrong please:

why wouldn't a bolt and a ball bearing (spacer) + a little heat take care of it ? ok, maybe allot of heat, but this is just on a taper, right ?

i move big stuff @ work with just a little heat applied. just wondering.


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Agno

91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

The Buddha

Quote from: ohgood on September 26, 2008, 05:09:29 PM
i haven't had mine off yet so correct me if i'm wrong please:

why wouldn't a bolt and a ball bearing (spacer) + a little heat take care of it ? ok, maybe allot of heat, but this is just on a taper, right ?

i move big stuff @ work with just a little heat applied. just wondering.

Maybe it will, but this is a magnet you are talking about, and heat kills magnetism ... you can have it disintegrate with heat too ... but maybe not if you're careful ...
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