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Started by makenzie71, January 06, 2009, 06:33:59 AM

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makenzie71

Is liquid oxygen flammable by it's self?

Weston

no. but it makes flamable things way more flamable.

vtlion

i'm sorry to burst your bubble, but we live in an oxidizing atmosphere... this means that it is already burned. :-( 

to make a combustible material from atmospheric gas is a losing proposition.

2 C8H18 + 25 O2 = 16 CO2 + 18 H2O + :)
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makenzie71

nah it's a winning thing...I have magic on my side, remember?  I already had an explanation but was hoping to conjure something a bit more substantial other than introducing new elements.

wladziu

Quote from: makenzie71 on January 07, 2009, 10:27:44 PM
I think the gun barrel bombs may be plausible, but I don't know what the velocity of the uranium would need to be in order to reach critical mass on impact.  Impact would also have to be pretty precise in order to sandwich the uranium in there properly.

the idea is akin to firing a nuclear weapon at the moon, but absolutely no electrical devices are allowed within 15,000 miles of the moon's surface.

It's not velocity of the gun-type that is a concern.  It's g-force, which is reachable considering prototype 155mm artillery shells are subjected to about 15500 G's (the new Copperhead round, etc.).  Unless the housing is manufactured by a cross-eyed Polish chick with Bell's Palsy, there isn't much of a problem with precision.  A half of the core at each end, which slide together at impact giving you neutron repulsion and then fission. 

Or, if you want, just have the surrounding explosives of an implosion-type ignited by sodium or potassium.  The implosion effect has to be decently timed, so the surrounding explosives all hit at around the same time.  But, there's a range... it doesn't have to happen at the exact millisecond.  And, not all of the explosives have to even ignite. 



Or, just look up the Demon Core, and write a new plot line.
Why does everyone think that an EMP kills circuits, though?  There are such things as shielding and temporary power interrupters that switch when they first detect an EMP. 

makenzie71

well it's an unrealistic variety of em thing.  That's something else I'm researching at the moment to see if I can make it a little more realistic, but it's doubtful.

And it's not so much that it kills circuits, it's that electronics and em pulses just don't mingle well.

Precision isn't an issue...if a electronic means of detonation failed then it would be possible to detonate a nuclear weapon with only an impact.  I'll have to conjure up something else, but this is the fun stuff.

wladziu

Then, everyone's already told you everything you need to know.

makenzie71

yeah but I have an uncanny urge to be the last poster when I start a thread.

wladziu


5thAve

Quote from: The Buddha on January 07, 2009, 02:23:25 PMWe used to do experiments in chemistry obviously way back when ... literally, we can separate carbon from CO2 by lighting up magnesium, put sugar on a candle wick, put a drop of sulphuric acid and it will light up the candle with its attack on the water in sugar.

Stable and combustible - ironic, vaseline. It will light up under water, under snow, under anything. Vaseline, cotton and flintstones = fire.

When I was a teenager, I'd coat kite strings with powdered glass, sulphur, powdered flintstones, magnesium and plaster of paris among other things and use it to cut down other kites. Now that in itself was no big deal, it was pretty common but I had the added benifit of being an engineering student with a serious love for fluid mechanics. I used to live in an area where there were a lot of kite flyers, and the year I figured out how to do it it was a very dark few years for everyone in my neighborhood. On some weekends I have cut down in excess of a 100 barely losing 1-2. Now to further exacerbate this dominance I actually had a technique where I'd cut the other string in seconds at first contact instead of fight on for hours on end.

Cool.
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PuddleJumper

Something else you can do with Vaseline, is mix it with a little bit of a certain type of compound and it makes a big boom that can only be ignited by electricity. :icon_mrgreen:

BeSafe.
PJ
"Lo que no mata, engorda".

Weston

Hmmmmm.... and what is this mysterious compound?

wladziu

#32
Potassium Chlorate. 

You can just use a blasting cap, though.  You can get the pure stuff, or use Solidox from a welder's suppy.  Weed killer has it, but other crap also. 
Grind a few sticks, mix 9 parts to one part Vaseline.  Boom.

Guess you could add just about any oxidizer, though, and get the same result.  That's all Solidox is.  SOLid OXygen. 
It's like blowing on a fire, while you're inside the fire.


You can do the same thing with sugar, and it's not as goopy. 
Just saying.



Weston


wladziu

What's even cooler is thinking about all the idiot things people do to themselves trying it. 



makenzie71

yeah I can say that if it has to do with solidox, just leave it alone.  I haven't messed with the other little variations, but solidox I have and it's dangerous.

PuddleJumper

Yep, that's why I don't tell what the other compound is.

Some people will want to try it and get hurt.

I don't know about potassium chlorate, but I had a different one in mind.

BeSafe
PJ
"Lo que no mata, engorda".

Weston

Thats what i figured. Yeah I like my fingers and hands. No need to worry about me.

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