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2008 GS500F + full exhaust + K&N + rejetting

Started by drewbytes, February 07, 2009, 10:51:37 PM

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drewbytes

galahs, I'm a little unsure of the correct procedure to get the idle correct after changing the pilot jet. When I first did it, put screws out 3 turns, tried to start bike with choke (like when stock) and wouldn't start at all - I assume because much too rich. No choke, it would start but not idle as revs too low. Increased idle speed adjustment screw until it would idle cold around 1000 rpm. That makes it idle when warm closer to 1500 rpm. Am I on the right track here or is there something I'm missing?


Helmet27

Nice mirror/indicators Galahs, although i think it'd b a bit harder to acheive on the naked iv got. the shop that i ordered from didnt seem to hav the lunchbox or individual K&N filters, so the guy ordered a replacement for stock 1, is there a big performance difference???
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drewbytes

Quote from: Helmet27 on February 17, 2009, 09:15:23 PM
Nice mirror/indicators Galahs, although i think it'd b a bit harder to acheive on the naked iv got. the shop that i ordered from didnt seem to hav the lunchbox or individual K&N filters, so the guy ordered a replacement for stock 1, is there a big performance difference???

Ask them to order them in for you. They can get them, probably was just too lazy to do it. I had to wait 4 days for mine to arrive in the store as a special order.

I haven't tried it but according to everything on here a drop-in replacement filter doesn't do much, you don't even need to rejet, where as you do for the lunchbox or twin filters.

Helmet27

Thanks Drewbytes, i went back to the shop and he called K&N importer and i now have to pod filters on the way :) :) :)
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Helmet27

Hey Galahs, did you have to do much tinkering to get the jetting right with the jardine and K&N's,or was it just a case of swap them out and ride away???
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Helmet27

Drewbytes:  with the twin K&N pod filters,was there any difficulty in putting them on??? How are they attatched to the carburretors???
                 Also, how is your jet testing going mate???

Galahs: i like the look of your tale indicators, where'd u get them from and for how much???
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drewbytes

Quote from: Helmet27 on February 18, 2009, 12:20:54 AM
Drewbytes:  with the twin K&N pod filters,was there any difficulty in putting them on??? How are they attatched to the carburretors???
                 Also, how is your jet testing going mate???

The filters come with a clamp each. They just slip over the carb and do up the clamp. Piss easy.

I've had the 20/62.5/142.5 jets in now for 2 days (100 kms) and very happy with it. At this stage I'll be leave it at that I think. With the 2 smaller jets only 1 size up it should also be good for economy.

Helmet27

Thanks Drewbytes, thats set my mind at ease a bit :). Sweet as for your jets man, hope it all works out!!!
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galahs

Quote from: Helmet27 on February 17, 2009, 11:21:02 PM
Hey Galahs, did you have to do much tinkering to get the jetting right with the jardine and K&N's,or was it just a case of swap them out and ride away???

Not really.

Just unsrewed out the old jets,
put in the new ones,
increased the idle rpm a little (correction to previous post, its actually set at 1400 rpm )


The rear indicators are from 2003-2005 gsxr (from ebay). I then added to the Clear Alternative CTS-0027 2003-2005 GSXR clear lens (also from ebay)

Helmet27

Thanks both Galahs abd Drewbytes for all the help,i'll let you know how i'm going, thanks again
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Helmet27

---Hey guys, i'v just put my K&N pod filters on and my new jets i (20,65,145) had small issue with getting into the cards cos of the week metal the screws are made of >:(. I found that the jets i replaced with the 20's seemed bigger than the 20s, either of you have a clue why this might be??? I don't have the exhaust on yet but it still runs well and is noisier too :), just that it idles farely roughly,although i'v come to the conclution that this is due to too much back pressure from the stock exhaust

---Hey Drewbytes, how is your set up working for you??? Has there been much of a performance increase???
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drewbytes

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Quote from: Helmet27 on February 25, 2009, 07:44:10 PM---Hey Drewbytes, how is your set up working for you??? Has there been much of a performance increase???

It appears to be going very well. The performance is hard to judge, but I believe it pulls harder at full throttle. The surprise I got on 1st tank after smaller jets (20/62.5/142.5) is it got better economy than stock. I'll fill again this weekend and advise if it's the same on the 2nd tank. It was definitely too rich on the last jets, these ones seem pretty good to me and look like they will give me stock like economy.

galahs

Quote from: Helmet27 on February 25, 2009, 07:44:10 PM
---Hey guys, i'v just put my K&N pod filters on and my new jets i (20,65,145) had small issue with getting into the cards cos of the week metal the screws are made of >:(. I found that the jets i replaced with the 20's seemed bigger than the 20s, either of you have a clue why this might be??? I don't have the exhaust on yet but it still runs well and is noisier too :),


???

What do you mean they seems bigger?

You might need to increase the idle rpm alittle with the new jetting. Simple rotate the white knob that is located underside of the carbs.

Also do something with your crankcase breather hose to stop it spewing oily mist all over your engine and rear wheel / brakes!

Helmet27

The jetting holes seemed bigger than the 20's i put in, but i wouldn't think they would be as the guy i bought it off never opened the carbs, so i might be seeing things  :laugh:

Have already played around with the idle screw and gotten it right.  But now i'v stumbled across a new problem:

   When srarting the bike cold i put the choke on half and it ran well. When i backed it off to 1/4 a clicking noise came and then the engine cut out. I'v got no idea why this is  :dunno_black: maybe just coz i'v not got a freer breathing exhaust on?

Yeah, i'v already dealt with the rocker cover breather in a similar fashion to your suggestion, thanks for the idea  :)
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drewbytes

I've found with the bigger jets that there is no need to choke at all - if I use choke it won't start. What you do is start without choke and increase the idle speed with the knob as Galahs said until it idles cold at around 1000 rpm or so. This will mean it will idle hot around 1400 rpm. You may find (as I did) that it will not idle at all until you increase the idle speed as said.

When you put the new jets in I presume you checked the writing on the jet itself to confirm it was the correct size, and likewise when removing to ensure you were putting the right jet in the right spot?

allaussiegrown

I think i will be rejetting and installing K&N air filters in very soon.. I have a Yoshimura TRS slip-on pipe attached to mine and i chose it because it is has fairings. But i got mine for AU$600 when the dollar was good against the green back. ill let you know how is it going. I get my fairing back Friday week after a lovely person dropped my bike when i was working. I have lined the tank with a anti-rust coating which was pretty straight forward. But the bike will be all black now with a zero gravity dark tinted cruiser screen.
2005 F - Yoshi TRS Slip-On, Ventura Rack, ZG Double Bubble (Ordered), LED Indicators

Helmet27

Hey my tall friend, you didnt tell me you were getting a screen, :2guns:  hahaha
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drewbytes

Did my 2nd fill this evening, averaged 4.65 over this tank so only 2-3% greater than my average week of 4.5x. It seems that riding as I normally do economy is almost the same which is great  :cheers:

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