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Started by The Buddha, May 17, 2009, 10:05:52 AM

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joshr08

Nope far too low. I have a slightly different idea too ... It would save us shipping cost ...

Sell to someone else ... I'll ship to them.

That way you pay for it from me ... take $ from them for it, and they will pay me for shipping.

I'd want 140 for the legs, 150 with stem, and calipers that dont go with this 10. If you sell it for 50, you'd only be out 90 ... if you sell for more, you can keep more of the $ ...
Sorry pitiful weather has me cowering at home ...

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Srinath.

so they must be good if your telling me to sell them to someone else? 
05 GS500F
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k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

The Buddha

No you tell them they are junk ... somehting you didn't tell me.
Nice try genius.
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The Buddha

I also didn't mean just gstwin, katana sites etc, any one who has uppers can make use of the lowers out of these.
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joshr08

then why dont you just sell them cuz you dont want to work with me as hard as i have tryed to make this right for you.  im not giving you 140 bucks for the legs its not going to happen.
05 GS500F
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k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

The Buddha

Yea I figured as much, time to run away josh and come back with a fake ID.

You're not even close to making it right for me ... do fork legs cost 100 ... if so, buy em and send em. Good ones, not rusty crap.

OK fine man, if not, time to call it done -

I paid 200 ... forks, stem, shock and calipers ... and you've said many times 200 is what you'd pay to have it back ...

Fine send 200 for it all and I'll send you all the stuff. I will actually send em all in 1 box UPS ... I figure 25 ...

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The Buddha

Quote from: joshr08 on May 17, 2009, 11:13:31 AM
I told buddha that i would refund his 200 dollars that he paid for everything that included shipping and for some reason thats not good enough for him he wants the 200 + 35 for shipping. 

This ... and I never said 35 for shipping ... I always said I'll UPS in 1 box ...
But yea fine now I ship at my cost. Fine.
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joshr08

~235 maybe - though I'd cram in 1 box and do UPS over 2 boxes in USPS.
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Srinath.

and im still waiting for pictures on this waiting waiting waiting.............you said you have pics post them up for everyone else to see along with me but yes i will refund your 200 on paypal as we talked from the start.  ill pm you with payment info.
05 GS500F
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k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

The Buddha

Yea not only did I have rain all day today, I had work off and on too ... work work ... yesterday and today ... ruined my weekend.
I will get it pushed in a bit and send it up.
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The Buddha

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Quote from: The Buddha on May 17, 2009, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: joshr08 on May 17, 2009, 11:13:31 AM
I told buddha that i would refund his 200 dollars that he paid for everything that included shipping and for some reason thats not good enough for him he wants the 200 + 35 for shipping. 

This ... and I never said 35 for shipping ... I always said I'll UPS in 1 box ...
But yea fine now I ship at my cost. Fine.
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Buddha.

OK we have got consensus on this step.
To all the naysayers ... OK see we can fight and resolve it. Like I always said he was never out to scam me. I knew that.
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The Buddha

Yes no sense posting inside without changing the title, cos usually people sometimes just read the title and never open it if its not relevant to them.
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Chanse

I still think this is a selffish act of buddha trying to up his post count....  17000 are you kidding LOL, you stay on here more than ummmmmm well anybody.. lol
Current project:
Mmotos full body kit (YOU DONT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM... READ MY THREAD BOOT STATE UPDATE)
K&N Lunchbox
Buddah's jets
CBR F2 rearsets
Ducati pass pegs (Modified)
Kat rear wheel
Carbon Fiber Exhaust Can, possibly shortened and relocated
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wladziu

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Hey, Buddha...  remember that front end you wanted to sell me for $400?  The one with the "untrustworthy" seals? 

The one you wanted to nickel-and-dime me to death on, because you buy all the forks you can get your hands on and re-sell them for over twice what you paid for? 

$50 for a special "bracket" for the dash, when all it needed was $.02 of aluminum?

Over a month waiting for you, putting me off again and again, then expecting me to wait another 3 weeks?

The one you wanted to install the way you wouldn't even do it on your own bike, yet you wanted to charge more money to do it the "better" way?










You wouldn't be trying to smear someone's reputation would you?
Calling someone a greedy crook?






$200 you're arguing about? 
Would now be a bad time to point out that I saved that much by buying from someone else and had it installed in under 1.5 hours?











What was it you told me about those forks? 
"Can't garauntee their condition"   ?
Karma's a b!tch, hunh?

wladziu

'Cause let's be perfectly honest here...

You probably talked him down as low as you possibly could, hoping you could turn around and sell them as high as possible. 
Probably $400, like you tried with me.  Twice what you paid for.

Without touching them.

Then charge parts and labor if the seals are shot, like you tried with me.





If I were Josh, I'd play dumb....
"oh, mighty knowledgable Buddha, I didn't know rusty forks were bad.  But you saw the pictures... if you were so smart, you should have told me."





Hilarious!













The Buddha

Wladizu - You have no clue what you're talking about.

The person I was going to fit these on was cstilt. Please ask him.

There is a reason why I have to sell certain things for a certain price. I do it once, I am forced to maintain it. I dont like screwing over my old customers by lowering prices after they have installed their parts.

The only reason I bought these, instead of telling cstilt to buy them was because I could not catch him (I called, emailed etc etc - please check that also with him). When I finally caught him, I told him, and I told him I'd sell it to him for the same price I bought form joshr08. If you bring your FE, I only machine it, I charge the same $ for it and I am not bound by what I sold the FE to my neighbor. And trust me one of the GS'es I did isn't more than 2 miles form me. I also suggested how they go about getting their parts and some times they do, and sometimes they dont. They buy a FE I have and the first case was one off my bike ... literally.

Then, Your guages are hard mounted. So are cstilt acewell. I make grommet carriers that let you mount guages with the original grommets. That was the $50. I didn;t tell you you can slap a metal piece and bolt it like cstilt did, cos I didn't do it ... ever. I have welded GS ears onto the kat triples and sold a few of those.
I dont like that design because a GS guage set when on the GS has 2 layers of grommets/donuts between it and the frame. Top triple grommet and the donut between the top triple and bottom triple. A Kat 600 top triple does not have that donut at all. So hard mounting it is not my preference. However I am also one of the few that love the stock guages and the way they fit and look so I may have to tell it to myself.

If I had remembered werase had that FE still I'd have told you to check with him first thing ... werase taught me everything about doing front ends. OK not true, dgyver also did (I needed to be taught 2-3 times looks like). He swapped my GS, my savage ... man was that so cool, and average's ... I also was going to buy that FE from him but he refused to sell it to me. Ask him if you want to.

Finally - cstilt's bike was crashed and came to me with a steering lock that didn't work. Werase confirmed my suspiscion about why and now after the FE swap, his steering lock does work. For me, a non functioning neck lock means I'd never leave my bike parked somewhere and be relaxed for an instant.

All the options I had I presented to you, and to cstilt. This option when it came up I would ahve presented you if your bike was what I was working on, much like I presented it to cstilt.

You got the right thing from werase, no question there, and I am striving to do that same type of work for cstilt. The whole rest of your assumptions etc are not correct or relevant.

No karma, cstilt is losing this FE and we are going back to our original deal and our original price. This whole thing started after he had got the bike to me for the work.

Anyway wladdie - Hope you took good care of werase. I know he did for you.
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Wladizu - One of the reasons I was waffling a bit wiht you was that I was still talking to cstilt when he was making his descision and he was before you in when he committed to do the swap. He was checking various things so I wasn't sure what I would have had because he had first call on it.
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wladziu

You liar.

This is the same front end that you've been working on since April?  This is the "race bike" that you kept putting me off for?  The one that you swore would be finished by May 8th, because you couldn't find the time to work on it? 

You're saying that I'd STILL be waiting on you, if I hadn't bought my front end elsewhere?











You're trying to shame the guy into paying you back, or put public pressure on him, but I applaud him.  He screwed over the guy that tried to screw me over.  Good for him. 

As much business as you do here, and as much as you charge for these things, you'd think that you could absorb the price of a bad part here and there.  But let's see:  then you'd have to raise your prices, right? 









If you were so backed up on work, why are you even worried about who my front end came from?  You're not the only game in town;  you just want everyone to think you are. 
And, it's frankly none of your business.  You lost my work order the second that I read where you convinced another member to sell a front end for $400, so nobody underbids you.  Why don't we start calling you "Halliburton"?   


Did you ask for detailed pictures of the tubes?  Did you ask for pictures of the calipers, or just take his word for it?  As much business as you do online, THIS is your insurance policy? 









wladziu

My bottom line:
I don't feel sorry for you, dude.  Look at your business plan - you run a business based on other people's junk.  Then, when someone sends you ACTUAL junk, you get all surprised and pissed off. 


It sucks that you lost $200, but all you're doing is advertising that you don't check what you're buying.  You're opening yourself up for it to happen again. 



Request a picture next to a newspaper or something. 
Or else, if you buy something from me - I'm sending you a brick.  For lying to me. 

The Buddha

I am sorry I didn't do any of that.

The race bike I am working on is joystick's bike, its scheduled for pick up on 25th due to him not racing @ barber due to work related changes. I am in close contact with him, if you read his intro - he is/was a coworker of mine.

I didn't tell werase to sell you the FE for 400. And its none of your business what I did tell him. But ask him exactly what I told him if you need to know. I dont believe there is any one else you can even be referring to, so You're wrong on this.

Yes you may have been waiting for me to do it. I only take up 1 at a time, and joystick is buying my bike I have been posting about it for months, cstilt is the only one I am working on that isn't mine.

Once again really this isn't any of your business, and you dont even have 1/2 the facts.

When someone says its good, and I have dealt with Josh on several things earlier I count it in. Yes it will happen again I know but I am not going to start distrusting people, and besides, josh and I dont have a disagreement over whether its good or not. Only who is paying for shipping it back. Huge difference.

I never tried to screw you over, really where are you imagining this from.

I also dont know when I lied to you. Yes I said last week april and we're in mid may and the stuff isn't done fine if you call that a lie fine I lied to you.

I actually dont run nothing. I really prefer to do FE swaps on your FE. Like you buy the FE, I'd machine the stem for the no spacer fit and make carriers for guages and fit them. That was why when the FE from josh came along I tried contacting cstilt about it.

I didn't ask for detailed pics of the tubes. I also didn't ask for caliper pics. I trusted josh to say as they are, and he did.

I think you're bored and are entertaining yourself. So dont let any of the facts or any damn thing else get in the way there.

And yes congrads on saving 200 bucks (you didn't but again dont let that stop you).

Also I could have well palmed it off on cstilt he'd never have known. The forks would leak, but when they lose about 1/2 the oil they will stop leaking. Sorry I dont do that either. I really am not answerable to you. I am answerable to my customer, and I lay out all the options for them. No surprises. Any option that comes in that can save $ I let them know also. But I also am not going to screw over my older customers. because most of them I gave the same options. I even gave my 2-3 ebay contacts who are local to some of my locals.

I gave cstilt an option that didn't pan out, I also gave joystick options, and everyone else that has bought things from me (ask mm75658, cal76, lopee etc) I think you're imagining things with 1/2 the facts. And yes your bike will not have been done till now you do have that right. That is all you got right though.

And, I took up cstilt's bike on the afternoon of May 4th, and inspite of this setback, his bike is to be test ridden today. Yes its not 90 mins, but that was my commitment to cstilt. I told him 2 weeks or so.

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wladziu

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You're not a liar?  I don't have the facts?


Here's your break-down of your pricing:
"He didn't realise 100 was for the top triple weld up, and machining the stem, 150 for fork seals and 35 for bearings."
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42137.0
However, you were trying to charge me $450 just for the parts themselves, then charge me extra for all the same work you're talking about there. 




Here you are selling the same front end, but saying it doesn't have new seals (like you just said it did, in the post above):

"BTW I also have a katana FE for $450+shipping ... It does not have new seals though."
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=41024.0


You're sure you're not lying?

Here's a prime example of your business ethics:
"I would buy it off you, but there is atleast 3 katana's lying face down in the mud in a 10 mile radius (cos I yanked their FE's) ... and them clowns have no clue, I can get it form them for less than the cost of priority mail from you to me."
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44115.0

Here you are talking about a worthless '88 front end (remember trying to sell me one for $300?):
"88 FE's ... not worth the effort of swapping over ... if it is the 39 ... its nearly useless. "
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44115.0

This is you bashing someone for daring to underbid you, and you trying to sell your own junk on the same thread:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=47191.80

This is you in April, but you say you were committed to a front end swap to CStilt at the time:  (same thread)
"One more time for the hard of comprehension ... I am not selling a front end, and I have only sold 2 ever almost a year ago to GSTwin people (active) and I am not selling one now."
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=47191.80


Here you are selling progressive springs for $90, WAAAAY over what they're worth retail:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=41161.0
"Progressives alone are $90"


Here's you saying that progressives are crap, anyway:
"Stock forks with progressives is a total waste of $$$ IMHO."
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=47191.40

And again:
"progressives are a waste"
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44115.0

This is you laughing at someone not wanting to pay you $450, and buying rusted forks like you just did:
Its one of those things he does, He didn't want to pay 450 for my katana forks.
So he bought some rusted sheite"
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42137.0




And, yes, it's my business that you harass someone I was doing business with.  You do it all the time on here.  Selling things from under people, pushing your junk on other folk's threads, telling people how much they are allowed to sell things for. 

Why are you even concerned about who I'm buying parts from?  Do you know how f*cking creepy that is? 


I can't even find the thread where you and another guy were pumping yourselves up about charging so much for the FE's.  Talking about ebay prices, and gathering all the parts, etc, convincing another guy to bump the price up $250.  But, according to you - you get these things all the time!  "Three of them laying in the mud", remember? 





I'm sure I don't have all the facts, but I have enough to tell me something is screwy.

And now look at you!  Smearing someone's name over the price of shipping?  Someone you've done regular business with? 




And, it's not like you're a saint.  Why don't you tell folks why you had to move states and change your username....  Something about a house foreclosure?

The Buddha

Quote from: wladziu on May 18, 2009, 12:32:46 PM


And, it's not like you're a saint.  Why don't you tell folks why you had to move states and change your username....  Something about a house foreclosure?



No no no no F*(k no ... hell no ... no ... not even close.

No foreclsure, my wife was worried my employer will try to find me because I used to work for one of those financial houses and I left with serious trade secret information about some things. I didn't think so, but she wanted it ...
I'll respond to all the rest in a bit.
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