Quote from: commuterdude on November 10, 2009, 08:17:49 PM

Quote from: gregvhen on November 10, 2009, 07:04:10 PM

Quote from: RyanMidd on November 10, 2009, 12:44:37 PM
Whoa whoa whoa.

In CANADA, we make fun of ANYBODY who puts down both feet at a stop.

Get an army then you can talk.

saved the bacon of US special forces.....making the longest confirmed kill at over 1500 yards during that action.

mmmmmmmmm Canadian bacon. gargle gargle gargle.

MSF course? I for one just took the riding test to get my license. easier and cheaper.  I also disagree with the riding if full gear all the time.  I usually ride with a helmet. unless its dusk, bad right, but I do a lot of riding facing the west, and don't have a smoked visor and cant see with out my sunglasses on that don't fit under my properly snugged helmet.  And If you have rode in 105 degrees Fahrenheit and like 80 percent humidity in mid-day in August in Kansas, you know its flipping hot out.  and when riding a distance, I would like to be comfortable and not dehydrated so I can focus on the road the the reasons why I ride.  That was the biggest mistake I made, wearing a light leather jacket, jeans and a helmet 1 o'clock in the afternoon and felt like I was going to pass out 30 miles later. Ride in appropriate gear for the weather.  I love my dad's Harley, great bike fun to ride, and powerful enough it scared me.  Not anymore ofcourse, but in my opinion there is nothing wrong with loud and powerful.  Just like a lobing out 383 stroker with headers and glass packs.  Nothing better then hearing a HD salute.  I about blow a load whenever I hear.  HD represents America better than anything else in my opinion.  I thought about taking over payments on my dad 883, then I'd have 2 bikes, but would be double broke!  I want it bad.  Any one wanna loan me some money I have zero desire to pay back and prolly won't?  PM me.

Quote from: glynnd89 on November 10, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
MSF course? I for one just took the riding test to get my license. easier and cheaper.  I also disagree with the riding if full gear all the time. 

It's free in my state, so it's all the same here, but the point isn't to make passing your test easier, the point is to teach you how you to ride better, even though from reading your post I'm sure you've already convinced yourself that there's nothing a 30 year riding veteran could teach you that you don't already know.

How do sunglasses not fit inside your helmet? I've always worn normal glasses inside my helmets. Sunglasses should be even easier because you can go shopping and pick out a pair for $3 that is pretty snug to your head and fits inside your helmet fine.

Ever try a summer riding jacket? I can imagine a leather jacket is too hot in the summer, but riding in my summer jacket feels cooler than riding in a t shirt. I'm not going to go into the details because I know that sounds the opposite of how it would work, and you're not going to listen anyway, but it does.

Quote from: glynnd89 on November 10, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
  I also disagree with the riding if full gear all the time.  Any one wanna loan me some money I have zero desire to pay back and prolly won't?  PM me.

Maybe if you offer to leave your motorcycles to the lender in your will someone would do it.

Seems like a pretty safe bet they would get their money back before too long.

I'm always willing to learn, and as I said it is a light leather jacket, no insulation, I'm just saying alot of people treat it like an over protective parent and thier baby child. After a certain force the helmet is gonna most likely be the difference between vegetable and dead. I'll take dead over vegetable any day. I've had my share of mishaps on bikes, and feel that the best way to learn the best way to ride is to put the mileage in, most driving and riding is instinct, but I always seek advice. And based on the notion that they'd get thier money back because I'd wreck and die, then the bike would be totalled. Haha.

I'm confused. Are we talking about riding technique, Harleys, or Canadians?

In MSF, I was taught left leg down, right boot on rear brake, hand on thottle, clutch in, 1st gear. Ready to take off or move if someone comes at you. You can't do that as quickly if you've got your hand clamped on the front binders. But hey, I'm open to other views. Give me a rationale. Bike stablity is one; I got caught in heavy cross-winds last week and was putting both feet down to keep the bike from falling over at a stop. I can't think of another reason, though.

The only time I thing 2 feet down looks amatuerish is when the rider *keeps* both feet down for the first 100 feet as he roars down the road. As if you could plant a boot to keep the thing up at takeoff speeds.

I think it's a comfort issue related to the riding position. I've never ridden a cruiser, but one foot down and one foot on the forward peg sounds awkward. Unlike one down and one on a standard peg as on the GS. Probably more comfortable on a cruiser to just plant both.

Quote from: noiseguy on November 11, 2009, 10:37:45 AM


I think it's a comfort issue related to the riding position. I've never ridden a cruiser, but one foot down and one foot on the forward peg sounds awkward. Unlike one down and one on a standard peg as on the GS. Probably more comfortable on a cruiser to just plant both.

Never thought of that but it makes good sense!

As for the hot weather riding, a mesh armored jacket with a wet t shirt underneath is a great compromise between comfort and safety.  You just have to stop about every hour to re-wet the t-shirt.

-Jessie

Quote from: glynnd89 on November 11, 2009, 10:17:46 AM
I'm always willing to learn, and as I said it is a light leather jacket, no insulation, I'm just saying alot of people treat it like an over protective parent and thier baby child. After a certain force the helmet is gonna most likely be the difference between vegetable and dead. I'll take dead over vegetable any day. 1) I've had my share of mishaps on bikes, and 2) feel that the best way to learn the best way to ride is to put the mileage in, 3) most driving and riding is instinct, but4)  I always seek advice. And based on the notion that they'd get thier money back because I'd wreck and die, then the bike would be totalled. Haha.

4) GOOD ! Here it comes !
3) instinct ? like a cat flips over when tossed in the air ? how about preventing the tossing ? instinct says to cover your eyes/face when an accident is possible. please, don't try this. it's a much better idea to avoid the accident. instinct is fight or flight. AVOIDING the fight or flight is a much safer proposition.
2) not milage, miles mean much less than training, and practice practice practice. try a figure 8 in a 20' box, ride 10,000 miles without the practice, and then try it again. i'll bet you don't fair much better.
1) i love these little numbered responses. think i'm going to go backwards from now on, so you're the first. ....
1) those mishaps didn't kill you. with more gear, you can possibly live a more comfortable (your skin, where it started) life. i've met people that claim "well that damned hip replacement is only good for 10-20 years !" and I'm amazed. living in pain, agony, and immobility for the rest of one's life is now superior to 10-20 years of pain free mobility ? see my logic ?



whoever posted that a gs is quicker than a goldwing- wow. din't know that. always figured the GW would out power the gs easily. (shrug)

Yes i would think a gold wing is quicker too. my freinds dad has one he blows my mind everytime i see him ride.  btw, did you those things are so dang big they have reverse? GL vs. GS id bet on the GL anyday. unless stoppin at the chikcen coop is part of the race.

Quotewhoever posted that a gs is quicker than a goldwing- wow. din't know that. always figured the GW would out power the gs easily. (shrug)

that was me!  and my gs always wins untill 70 where its a dead heat to 85ish then he pulls hard on me untill im topped out and hes still powerin on.

QuoteYes i would think a gold wing is quicker too. my freinds dad has one he blows my mind everytime i see him ride.  btw, did you those things are so dang big they have reverse? GL vs. GS id bet on the GL anyday. unless stoppin at the chikcen coop is part of the race.

rider skill makes a huge performance difference.. i am by no means sayin you arent skilled,  , but maybey the gl rider has amazing skillz? also my gs is highly modified which im sure makes a good difference. and yes i knew they have reverse plus they have air rear suspension a cd player complete with four speakers and an air bag (!) and abs! that thing impresses me more every time i ride it

CAN I SAY THIS LOUD ENOUGH FOR THE IDIOTS TO HEAR? If you have to have a ridiculously loud pipe to protect you as a rider you have several problems!

1. You are an idoit and don't know how to ride!
2. Take some Enzeses or something you have pee pee envey
3. No one can hear the obnoxoius pipes until you pass them any way and all you do is scare the crap out of people. (Note for you idiots that don't understand? That is a bad thing to do to a soccer Mom on the cell phone! Good call moron)

I could go on and on but those that disagree can't hear Logic or could even grasp it

Humm I guess that is why I own a GS and am not on a hog site? Just a guess?

Quote from: JB848 on November 11, 2009, 09:50:14 PM
CAN I SAY THIS LOUD ENOUGH FOR THE IDIOTS TO HEAR? If you have to have a ridiculously loud pipe to protect you as a rider you have several problems!

1. You are an idoit and don't know how to ride!
2. Take some Enzeses or something you have pee pee envey
3. No one can hear the obnoxoius pipes until you pass them any way and all you do is scare the crap out of people. (Note for you idiots that don't understand? That is a bad thing to do to a soccer Mom on the cell phone! Good call moron)

I could go on and on but those that disagree can't hear Logic or could even grasp it

I have a loud exhaust on my bike and car, not for protection but because i like loud vehicles. why are you tryin to hate? i grew up around car shows where everything has straight pipes. im not going to insult you just because your opinion is different than mine, just try not to hate every thing you dont understand otherwise you will be angry forever.

LMAO, Understand? I guess you are just dense. No need to say more.

Quote from: JB848 on November 11, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
LMAO, Understand? I guess you are just dense. No need to say more.

why am i dense? because i love the sound of rapidly combusting hydrocarbons? if you dont like it dont have a loud exhaust, simple. why are you so mad at people who like loud exhausts? did one of us hurt you in some way?

Maybe the soccer mom should get off the phone and pay attention to the road.  I can hear a Harley blocks away. much before I see it.  So if you are in town at an intersection, granted you don't have your stereo blaring, and just "don't see" a bike, why don't we attack 2 senses instead of just one.  Have you had your hearing checked lately.  Maybe I can hear a Harley from a distance because when I was riding in a car with my parents and we heard a Harley, we all enjoyed the rumble and pointed it out.  So by positive reinforcement, i am tuned to hear a Harley.  Check out this link, starts out a little biased, but ends in good statistics. http://www.bikernet.com/news/PageViewer.asp?PageID=902.  Have with it what you will.

Quote from: black and silver twin on November 11, 2009, 10:15:17 PM

Quote from: JB848 on November 11, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
LMAO, Understand? I guess you are just dense. No need to say more.

why am i dense? because i love the sound of rapidly combusting hydrocarbons? if you dont like it dont have a loud exhaust, simple. why are you so mad at people who like loud exhausts? did one of us hurt you in some way?

Problem is is you don't get it. You like it cool. No problem. The problem is your such an idiot that don't get that not everyone does. Your sound carries and into other peoples privacy. I don't want to hear your bullshit loud pipe on anything. Do you give me a choice? No! You are a selfish little prick that only cares about yourself like all of you that run the noise makers!

Dude you dont have to call people morons, or say theyre wrong or dense just cause theyre OPINION is differant than yours. Alot of people like loud vechicles. and most often you can hear them before they pass you.  and most often they dont scare you. What scares people more, and this even happened to me, an 18 year old, at the street fighterz ride of the century, so youd think i would expect it, but a couple guys on sport bikes, not harleys, flew past me at like 80 Mph when i was just sitting there. i didnt hear them coming then all of a sudden FFFFFMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmm.  scared the crap out of and I was watchin all the other guys take off, expecting loud noises.  Ive never been thrown off by a harley. and in my OPINION, loud harleys sound cool.

Quote from: JB848 on November 11, 2009, 10:26:04 PM

Quote from: black and silver twin on November 11, 2009, 10:15:17 PM

Quote from: JB848 on November 11, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
LMAO, Understand? I guess you are just dense. No need to say more.

why am i dense? because i love the sound of rapidly combusting hydrocarbons? if you dont like it dont have a loud exhaust, simple. why are you so mad at people who like loud exhausts? did one of us hurt you in some way?

Problem is is you don't get it. You like it cool. No problem. The problem is your such an idiot that don't get that not everyone does. Your sound carries and into other peoples privacy. I don't want to hear your bulloh my goodness loud pipe on anything. Do you give me a choice? No! You are a selfish little prick that only cares about yourself like all of you that run the noise makers!

wow your angry over nothing   i was just playin, dont get in to a hissy fit. yes your right you can hear my exhaust but its only for a second then were gone, dont freak, you might have a heart attack

and there are plenty of very loud sport bikes too, just a differant type of loud. harleys tend to be a low, deep rumble brum brum brum loud, and sport bikes have the high, humming constant braaaaaaaaaaaammmmm loud.

Are you against smoking in public too? Its not like They sit out your house and rev up their shaZam! just to smite you.  The people that like it, like it.  The people that hate it, hate it. Good thing is, you don't have to be around each other all times of the day. Get over your rights, because they have rights too.  And they both seem to be so extreme opposites on the spectrum, there is no compromise, so ignore it and move on. Its 2 seconds of your day.