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Time to upgrade.. Sv650s-sv1-fz6-fz1

Started by BassWoW, January 19, 2013, 06:57:09 PM

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Twisted

Quote from: jacob92icu on January 25, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
The Hyosong gt650 is simply the knock off version of the sv650. And i have also heard bad things about the life term of them.

Hyosung actually make the Suzuki 650 twin. So who's knocking who off?

Bass wow, another bike you could look at is the 650 ninja

BassWoW

Now someone said the sv650s was cramped and another like the above said its nice.
k4

Twisted

Only way to find out for yourself is to sit on one or even better, test ride. The Kawasaki 650 comes in a naked model (ER6) or a faired (ninja, not to be mistaken with the ZX6R ninja)

mcg2000



I find that hard to believe. A GSXR 600 can only do 155 mph and has 30 more horsepower. I've never heard of a stock SV doing more than 135 mph stock or 140 mph with extensive modifications.


Has the OP considered a Hyosung GT650R? I've never ridden one, but my buddy just picked up one of the older carb'd versions in mint condition for $1500 and he seems to like it

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Dude... Ever heard of gear ratios? Just because an engine has more horsepower doesn't mean the bike will go faster. Your rotational speeds will vary from the engine to the wheel thanks to the transmission, which is geared differently for each bike (or model, etc.). The amount of teeth on your sprocket also affect the ratio.  Come out to Starkville, MS and I'll ride side by side with you at 150 MPH on my stock geared 06 Suzuki SV650S. Anyways, a GSX-R is a racing bike, so it'll be geared more towards acceleration, which sacrifices top speed.

mcg2000

Quote from: BassWoW on January 25, 2013, 04:15:51 PM
Now someone said the sv650s was cramped and another like the above said its nice.

Just depends on your height I guess. I'm the one who said it was comfortable, and I'm 5'10" and 190 lbs. Just for reference  :cheers:

jacob92icu

The hyosung might make the sv650 but i believe that Suzuki has better quality manufacturing than hyosung
I am into buying bikes that people have given up on and fixing them up!

RIP Patrick Lajko, I miss you man.

mister

BW,

The SV650 is upright.
The SV650s has more agressive leaning posture.

I like the naked, dislike the S' posture.

Take both for a spin and see if they suit you. We are all different and what suits one person does not suit another.
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slipperymongoose

You could try out the BMW twins too. The naked f800r, f800s, and the gs versions too. Great for pillion riding.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

mister

Ill take the bmw f650gs everyday over the f800gs. Same engine, but the handling on the 650 wins hands down.
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kml.krk

Yellow 2004: K&N Lunchbox, Leo Vince SBK, 2005 GSXR Turn Signals, 20/65/147.5, 15T front sprocket, Progressive Springs etc...

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ver4

#50
I enjoy my FZ6 (aside from a pesky headlight problem).  It's comfortable for long distance riding.  It does well in the twisties, though the higher center of gravity takes some getting used to.  The braking is pretty strong.  The frame is aluminum, so if you keep the bike outside you shouldn't have to worry about rust on the frame.  If you're into modifying there are plenty of aftermarket parts.  When I first test rode it I thought the power would be overwhelming, but it's all about throttle control and managing RPMs.  I don't have much of an opinion on the other bikes mentioned other than the SV650N and my ride on it wasn't too long, so I can't provide reliable information for that model.
93 GS500 Stock - Sold
04 Yamaha FZ6

SAFE-T

The SV650 has proven pretty durable, and raced in middleweight across the world. Never heard of anyone 'racing an SV1000 for profit' LOL.

I had ridden a couple of SV650'S' models over the years and it always felt fine. Then I bought one last year when I was 45 and it absolutely killed my left hip and knee after about 20min. But up until then I thought it was awesome. 

SAFE-T

The SV650'S' does have a fairly long reach across the tank to the bars ~ again, this was never a problem until last year.

It's the kind of bike you have to plunk yourself down on for yourself and find out. 

SAFE-T

The 07+ SV650 had ABS available as an option ~ something you won't find on the FZ6,FZ6R or FZ1.

SAFE-T

The '04 apparently had some '04 only parts, so some people advise against that year. The 05+ had a dual-plug head that increased fuel efficiency.

slipperymongoose

The sv650 isn't much of a step up from the gs, certainly more adjustability in it. Me personally I would stay away from Yamaha but you yanks seem to love them. Way I think the jap manufactures are so focused on what each other is doing they all make virtually the same thing. If you want real variety go to Europe.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

02GSNewb

Quote from: Twisted on January 25, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
Quote from: jacob92icu on January 25, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
Hyosung actually make the Suzuki 650 twin. So who's knocking who off?

Hyosung and the SV650 are not even close. I implore you to go over to the SV forums with these assertions.

I purchased an SV650 before I sold my GS500 to make sure it was the bike I wanted. I did find the way the two bikes carried their weight to be one of the biggest differences. The GS feels like a honda 50 the way that it wants to sit on the ground. The SV carries its weight up top and is much more bulk to handle.
After purchasing the SV I still rode my GS but the SV is a smoother, faster, more refined machine.

mcg2000

Okay I have to point this out. I see a lot of people comparing SV650S to SV650 (not the S model). They both have the same frame, tank, seat, everything... except for the front end (cowl sub-frame isn't bolted on to the frame).

So... I'm just confused as to how the seating angle is different? I can imagine the handlebars might be at a different height, but I doubt even that.

Or, I'm wrong entirely and there's significant differences between S and non-S models. I've never sat on a non-S model, so I lack the experience. However, I rebuild salvage bikes and I'm familiar with the similarities in Suzuki motorcycles, mainly so I can get compatible parts easier. So I'm "somewhat" confident in this.

SAFE-T

Nothing really different about the 'front end' on the SV650'S' and SV650'N'. The 'S' has a half-fairing, while the 'N' only has a small cowling over the headlight ~ what they used to call a 'bikini fairing'.

The 'S' has clipons. The 'N' has handlebars. The rear subframe/seat is the same, but the handlebars on the 'N' give a little more upright riding position. Suzuki thought the 'N' model would be used more in cities, while the 'S' would get some travelling between cities so the gearing is a little different ~ the 'N' model being geared to rev higher for better roll-on acceleration, while the 'S' revs a little lower for longer distances at a higher road speed.

shonole

Quote from: SAFE-T on January 28, 2013, 09:03:27 AM
Nothing really different about the 'front end' on the SV650'S' and SV650'N'. The 'S' has a half-fairing, while the 'N' only has a small cowling over the headlight ~ what they used to call a 'bikini fairing'.

The 'S' has clipons. The 'N' has handlebars. The rear subframe/seat is the same, but the handlebars on the 'N' give a little more upright riding position. Suzuki thought the 'N' model would be used more in cities, while the 'S' would get some travelling between cities so the gearing is a little different ~ the 'N' model being geared to rev higher for better roll-on acceleration, while the 'S' revs a little lower for longer distances at a higher road speed.

"In addition to the obvious differences between the S and non-S models (with the S-model sprouting a frame-mounted quarter fairing, clip-ons to replace the standard bike's tubular handlebar and more rearset footpegs), the unfaired SV has a slightly longer swingarm and wheelbase, footpegs that are lower and further forward, one-tooth-shorter final gearing and a hair more trail thanks to triple clamps with 1.5mm less offset. Note the new oil cooler on both versions"
2004 SV650n - Blue

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