I know this thread was made in 2012, but honestly...this is one of the most pointless comparisons I've ever seen.

To be completely honest, reading this -- the "convenience" points made makes it really seem that your bike of choice should not even be a GSX-R1000, you'd better be off with a modern sports tourer.

This was the biggest "lol" for me:

QuoteThe range on the tachometer.  The GS500F's tach read up to 11,000 RPMs before redlining, while the GSXR-1000 reads up to 13,500 before redlining.

Old CBR250RR's go up to 20K RPM. My 600 goes up to 17K RPM -- who cares? Frankly higher revving engines are more likely to suffer trouble.

Also, FYI -- a litre bike can do a 0 - 60 mph in well under 2.9 seconds, it really depends on the rider and launch. I've seen an old ZX-9R do one in 2.5 seconds.

When I was first looking at getting a bike. Progressive quoted me roughly $600 a month for a CBR600RR, but $50 a month for a Ninja 250.

Now for my SV650 and GS500 together I'm paying roughly $100 a month. I do plan to get a 600 or 750 eventually, but I'm not looking forward to the insurance cost.

Quote from: Arudinne on December 26, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
When I was first looking at getting a bike. Progressive quoted me roughly $600 a month for a CBR600RR, but $50 a month for a Ninja 250.

Now for my SV650 and GS500 together I'm paying roughly $100 a month. I do plan to get a 600 or 750 eventually, but I'm not looking forward to the insurance cost.

$600 per month? You mean $600 x 12 = $7200 a year for motorcycle insurance? Where do you live lol?

I'm paying $59 a month for my CBR600RR full comprehensive insurance with gear cover. I'm 25.

Austin, Texas. That was about 4 years ago, so this would of been for a 23 year old rider with no experience buying a brand-new CBR600RR.

Basically it "you're going to kill yourself" pricing.

Quote from: nick500 on December 26, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
Wait, how can anybody make a comparison between two bikes that different!!! we are talking about the double of engine... wait.. you shold never get the GS up to 125 mph (stock)... I should bet you get 160 miles per hour in the 1000... or may be you don't know how to drive a bike like this one or may be you don't know what was this bike built for... of course the breaking is going to be proportionally different... the suspension the same... the acceleration... evertything; may be if you use to use a MP5 (9mm) in order to kill a bug, you could say that ridding a GS500F is almost the same than a GSXR 1000 or even make a comparisson... this is like compare a honda civic 1998 (stock) against a nissan GTR...

I have a HealTech TRE on my 2006 GSX-R1000 and it will top out right at 200mph

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on December 26, 2013, 12:55:03 PM
You failed to mention the never ending conga line of tickets from owning the 1000 

You only get the ticket if you stop for it..........Im just sayin'

My 1000

Quote from: weedahoe on December 27, 2013, 02:08:05 PM
You only get the ticket if you stop for it..........Im just sayin'

What happens when have to turn right during your felony flight?

Thats an exh made for a track.

I've been riding track since 2007. It's definitely not an exhaust made for the track.

You don't have to be doing track days to see that's not an exhaust made for a track. Lovely bike, but I ain't digging the exhaust, looks like it will be scraping the ground often.

You guys are talking about a diff type track. I'm talking straight "drag" track, not obstacle track.

Drag Track!!!!  nice zorst weeds! ... What's the dB output like? 

.... Wait for it..... Wait for it....... (All the arguments why drag tracks are pointless also!!) 

... I have heard quite a few circuit track people over the years, Hack into how drag tracks are crap and pointless .... But very few drag track people hack into circuits are crap etc ...

Take this two ways .... Either the circuit people have polarised brains and the draggers are more tolerant of everyone.... Or maybe there are some people that understand this ... That there are ALL sorts of different ways of measuring performance and enjoying how a machine is used... And some that don't .. 

.... Damn .. Now I'm being polaroidy in the brain!! ... Go figure eh!

Drag tracks..... you build a mean engine, turbo or NOS, through in a auto trans and hang on. Sure there is some skill in it but its more about how fast you can go. Not any different than what they do with cars/trucks/quads

Circuit track is time critical and more so skill critical but you will never go as fast on this kind of track like you would the drag track (160+ mph and closer to 180-200)

Quote from: weedahoe on January 01, 2014, 11:04:03 AM
Drag tracks..... you build a mean engine, turbo or NOS, through in a auto trans and hang on. Sure there is some skill in it but its more about how fast you can go. Not any different than what they do with cars/trucks/quads

Circuit track is time critical and more so skill critical but you will never go as fast on this kind of track like you would the drag track (160+ mph and closer to 180-200)

Tracks are for road racing. You drag race on a strip.

You're mistaken about the top speeds; many road-race circuits feature a straight that's significantly longer than a quarter mile, and the bikes typically enter the straight at 40-60MPH. Typical street bikes will see much higher top speeds on the circuits than they will the drag strip. The trap speed for a 600 is typically in the 110-120 range. My GS hits 103 at T-Hill, and my wife's CBR typically sees a top speed in the 130-150 range. A purpose built drag bike could definitely see much higher speeds at the drag strip, but we're not talking about a street legal bike here.

I've never seen an exhaust like that on a drag bike. Most of the purpose built drag bikes I've seen run open headers.

Quote from: burning1 on January 01, 2014, 04:18:07 PM
I've never seen an exhaust like that on a drag bike. Most of the purpose built drag bikes I've seen run open headers.

in general for public .. even though i quoted burning1 !!

ive seen a few pipes like that for 'weekender/midweek mashup' drag meets ... they unbolt the sports type/standard look exhaust and bolt the "Power pipe  , true mate! its a race winner!! my mate said!!" onto the bike .. (oh and i'm not knocking your pipe here Weeds .. just seeing it reminded me of a couple of local 'expert draggers' that i know .. lol)

i dont know about the flow rates or possible hp gains from that style of pipe though ... the lads i know that use them could 'probably' get a quicker quarter if they concentrated more on reaction time and smoothing out their first 100 feet of launch activity 

definitely a purpose specific unit though!! .. dont get very many corners or even slight curves on most drag tracks so the whole 'cant lean it much' concept is kinda moot eh!

.. so now Weeds..... i think seeing as you have posted up a picture of your monster zorst .. AND mentioned that its for Drag work ... we really need to see a video .. good or bad and win or lose ... of you running the wee beastie down the track eh!! 

If the strip permits it, they'd probably do better by removing the muffler and flipping to a slightly fatter map.

Most race pipes clamp or bolt the can on right around where that drag pipe ends. Removing the muffler would result in a noticeable reduction in weight, slight reduction in back-pressure, and slight improvement in breathing.

Any aftermarket exhaust is going to be lighter than OEM. My bike doesn't go down a track. No need for me. I'm not in it for the $ and I certainly don't need to go 160+.

Its dyno proven that Brocks can help make considerable power over stock and at the same time offer a weight reduction.

I have videos on Facebook of the bike although nothing crazy. Right now it is torn down for a new swingarm, rims, custom headlight and new paint.

Repost, but here's my 500 vs 1000 video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlTtDLHIyY

And to be honest, I'm struggling to beat my GS500 lap-times on a CBR600RR. A big part of it is probably that the bike isn't really set-up for me, but I seem to be a lot more comfortable on small bikes than big ones.