<-  this guy?  Moron.

soooooo I have just under 18000 miles on my '09 GS500f.   I, for some reason, thought if you didn't feel a problem, there wasn't one.  Bike ran amazing for 17000 miles.   Now it's anemic and idles like crap (dies, wandering idle, but no issues other than the anemia when given gas).   I'm due for plugs, which are in the mail, BUT>>>>>

18,000 miles and I've never done a valve check.

Pile your scorn upon me, I deserve it. 

On to the questions:

Where do I get an adjustment kit?!

Why am I dumb?

Where do I get that funky tool?

HalP!

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Amazon Prime $13.65 http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-0017-Suzuki-Yamaha/dp/B000UKIN8Q

If your a cheap ass like me and pressed for time I used two small screwdrivers and a retractable magnet for my shim change

Having done it with and without the tool... order the tool and learn how to use it! Makes the job easy instead of frustrating.

Btw, your bike's symptoms sound like textbook tight valves. Especially if after warming up for 15-20 minutes the symptoms go away.

Quote from: brendan87na on June 29, 2014, 03:04:38 PM


Now it's anemic and idles like crap

How would you describe anemic??  Just curious.  Mine has 9,000 miles  (recently put on about 2,000 miles)-  I should be right on time for the next 4,000 mile maintenance check.  (although I did quite a bit of it when I got the bike with 7K on it.

Just wondering from you / others how "anemic" begins to feel.  (I've always kind of thought the mine should have a bit more punch in 1st and 2nd gear when "getting on it a bit" but for the most part I ride like an old lady (off the line)....

i just modified an 13/16 open end wrench with a grinder to make my own tool, worked for my XJ650 yama too

Oh blueknyt do post a picture! I've removed shims with screwdrivers (as the proper tool is hard to get and expensive here in the uk) but your method might be a good alternative! Cheers, tom.

PLEASE NOTE! According to the motionpro (amazon)  link above, the tool does NOT fit a 2009 gs500. That's the information given on the seller's website. I'm not sure if anyone can confirm this?

Use .05 to .08mm for intakes, .08 to .13mm for exhausts



I've seen this recommendation in at least 2 different threads recently and wonder why a range of .05-.08mm is recommended for intakes?  Should have a range of at least equal to the minimum difference in thickness of the shims which is .05mm (.002") to be possible to achieve in all cases.

Suzuki recommends .03-.08mm for both intake and exhaust valves and while this is too tight for exhausts at the low end of the range the intakes have no problem with it.  Both my 97 at 80k miles and my current 02 at 100k miles have the same intake shims in them that they came from the factory with.

I started setting the exhausts at .08-.13mm back 8 years ago and many have done the same since and it has made a big difference in exhaust valve life.  My recommendation has been .03-.08mm for intakes and .08-.13mm for rxhausts since then.

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Quote from: ace50 on June 30, 2014, 07:20:26 AM
.03-.05mm is so frigin small (.001-.003") Thinner than a piece of paper. Not for me. I've never had a bike with that close a range.
That's just me. 

So why are you recommending an even smaller range than Suzuki does?  Makes no sense.  Suzuki .03-.08mm    Ace50 .05-.08mm   for intakes.  That was my point, you need a range at least as wide as the .05 minimum difference in shim thicknesses.

.03-.05mm is smaller than (.001-.003")!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: tomgus on June 30, 2014, 02:49:31 AM
PLEASE NOTE! According to the motionpro (amazon)  link above, the tool does NOT fit a 2009 gs500. That's the information given on the seller's website. I'm not sure if anyone can confirm this?

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0017/

"•Fits all Suzuki 4-stroke models with shim-type valve tappets"

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Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on June 30, 2014, 08:37:13 AM

Quote from: tomgus on June 30, 2014, 02:49:31 AM
PLEASE NOTE! According to the motionpro (amazon)  link above, the tool does NOT fit a 2009 gs500. That's the information given on the seller's website. I'm not sure if anyone can confirm this?

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0017/

"•Fits all Suzuki 4-stroke models with shim-type valve tappets"

I  hear what your saying, but the original link to the motionpro tool says not .....


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Where do I acquire the shim measuring.. things?  I'm involving my more mechanically inclined father in this project as well - he enjoys this kind of stuff...

Something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-68100-Deluxe-Feeler-Gauge/dp/B0009OMY9C/ref=pd_sim_auto_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Z48NXPVW47GY053V6CB

Quote from: brendan87na on June 30, 2014, 11:25:16 AM
Where do I acquire the shim measuring.. things?  I'm involving my more mechanically inclined father in this project as well - he enjoys this kind of stuff...

Something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-68100-Deluxe-Feeler-Gauge/dp/B0009OMY9C/ref=pd_sim_auto_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Z48NXPVW47GY053V6CB

Autozone, advanced auto parts, orileys, napa, any auto parts store should carry feeler gauges for 3-6$

Any particular sizes I need to find?  I'm a complete neophyte at this *chuckle*

Quote from: tomgus on June 30, 2014, 11:22:24 AM

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on June 30, 2014, 08:37:13 AM

Quote from: tomgus on June 30, 2014, 02:49:31 AM
PLEASE NOTE! According to the motionpro (amazon)  link above, the tool does NOT fit a 2009 gs500. That's the information given on the seller's website. I'm not sure if anyone can confirm this?

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0017/

"•Fits all Suzuki 4-stroke models with shim-type valve tappets"

I  hear what your saying, but the original link to the motionpro tool says not .....

NO....Amazon is saying it doesn't work....it's Amazon's "Garage" or whatever they call it that doesn't work, in other words Amazon doesn't know it's ass from a hole in the ground.

Ok stevo. Thanks for the clarification. Looks like this tool does work with a 2009 gs500.