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Started by the_63, March 01, 2016, 11:13:01 AM

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the_63

So, after 9 months, it's happened. Me and sookie went down.  :sad: pulse generator cover was torn off and the centre of the coil snapped off.

I gutted...don't have the funds or the expertise to put her right again :dunno_black:
'99 GS500ex (sookie)

The Buddha

That ain't no issue. With parts any capable GSTwinner in a 100 mile radius would do it for a case of their favorite poison.
If you're in driving distance of charlotte NC I'll volunteer myself.
Else find your favorite gstwinner.
BTW post a pic - if your crank threads and locator is knackered - while still not unfixable, we may require - well 2 cases of the aforementioned poison. Or a Benjamin or some combo there of.
What other damage ? That may count for more than this particular one.
Cool.
Buddha.
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ShowBizWolf

Way to be super supportive Buddha, I love it!!!  :D

I am sorry to hear about what happened 63 but hopefully the forum can indeed help you out!! Are YOU okay ?
Superbike bars, '04 GSXR headlight & cowl, DRZ signals, 1/2" fork brace, 'Busa fender, stainless exhaust & brake lines, belly pan, LED dash & brake bulbs, 140/80 rear hoop, F tail lens, SV650 shock, Bandit400 hugger, aluminum heel guards & pegs, fork preload adjusters, .75 SonicSprings, heated grips

the_63

Hey Buddha,

I live in the u.k. so I'm a little out of the way. It's late so I can't get any good pictures of sookie atm and the pictures I have taken are too big to upload. I'll try and resize them.

As far as I can tell the brake levers are just a straight swap. Theres no fuel or oil leaking so I'm taking that as a positive. The ignition pick up is bent so will need replacing as i think some of the components of it are damaged too. So the result is the engine is failing to spark on the button, but making the sounds. And because the timing rotor cover got ripped off the 3 bolts holding it on have sheered  :icon_rolleyes:

I will get pictures of sookies damage in the morning. Appreciate the offer to help with the fix the guy, that's very cool.  O0

I am ok showbizwolf. Pride is hurt and I'm gutted my bike is off the road after I spent so much time and money over the weekend making her run nice and look pretty.  :sad: But I have just secured a job to pay for it while I finish my nursing degree. Didn't need sleep or a social life anyway!
'99 GS500ex (sookie)

lucas

This is an opportunity for you to learn how simple it can be to get a downed bike back on the road.  Buy parts used, buy from wreckers and get your advice and tutorials from gstwins and you'll be in ship shape in no time.

If you are trying to upload pics directly to this forum I don't think that is going to work no matter how small you make the images.  You have yo host the photos elsewhere like imgur or photobucket.  Imgur is easy to use, I found.

fetor56


Daeouse

There's a few members on here from your side of the pond, so there's hope! :cheers:
I'm rebuilding mine on less than a shoe-string budget, so I can understand funding troubles, but you shall prevail!!! :thumb:
Jon "MotoSquirrel"
2009 Yamaha V-Star 950
My Blog!

Jimbob

Must important thing is that your ok, and like others have said fixing the bike is possible :)

the_63

#8
Good morning everybody,

Thank you for your support, you guys have been awesome  O0
I snapped a couple of shots of sookie, to be fair the damage looks minimal, I may be in denial but I'm hoping it'll be a cheaper fix than first thought  :woohoo:


Timing rotor:
Top-


Side-


Bottom-


Bolt that holds the timing rotor in place:
Side-


Bottom-

I don't think you can see it too well from the picture but the bottom of this bolt looks like it's whole, so there's nothing left inside.

Obviously though, if the bolt hasn't sheared then it raises questions about the the state of the receiving threads (of the crankshaft?)

Pulse generator housing:

As you may be able to see, the locating pin for the timing rotor is visible  :cheers: Sadly the 3 bolts the hold the pulse generator cover have sheared, 2 are sitting flush with the case (top and right) and one has sheared further down  >:(

the mounting plate for the pickups:

It's a little bent, maybe can be hammered out. If not I have seen one on eBay for £50.

Now for the cosmetic stuff, starting at the front of the bike.

Front brake reservoir:


Fuel tank:


Brake pedal:

I have a replacement brake pedal ordered. Cost me £8  :cheers:

Seat fairing:


Exhaust:


I checked this morning, there's now fresh oil, no fuel leaking, so that's a relief, as you can see from the front brake picture the brake fluid is very low, so it would appear I have lost some in the crash.
'99 GS500ex (sookie)

TQM

Where in the UK are you? I've been collecting parts for my own GS project(s)* for the last few months so prob' allready have multiples of the bits you need sitting in the garage. I'm a few miles north of London and work in the city.

*A pair of basket cases called Jessie and Gus. Both mid 90's GS500Es that I'm hoping to get back on the road this summer.

the_63

Quote from: TQM on March 02, 2016, 06:30:13 AM
Where in the UK are you? I've been collecting parts for my own GS project(s)* for the last few months so prob' allready have multiples of the bits you need sitting in the garage. I'm a few miles north of London and work in the city.

*A pair of basket cases called Jessie and Gus. Both mid 90's GS500Es that I'm hoping to get back on the road this summer.

I'm not a million miles from London, I live in Norwich. I don't need many parts:

-brake lever and possibly the front brake reservoir
-mounting plate for the ignition coil pickups
-retaining bolt for the timing rotor
-timing rotor cover plate and 3 bolts that keep it in place.
'99 GS500ex (sookie)

TQM

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Quote from: the_63 on March 02, 2016, 06:44:39 AM
Quote from: TQM on March 02, 2016, 06:30:13 AM
Where in the UK are you? I've been collecting parts for my own GS project(s)* for the last few months so prob' allready have multiples of the bits you need sitting in the garage. I'm a few miles north of London and work in the city.

*A pair of basket cases called Jessie and Gus. Both mid 90's GS500Es that I'm hoping to get back on the road this summer.

I'm not a million miles from London, I live in Norwich. I don't need many parts:

-brake lever and possibly the front brake reservoir
-mounting plate for the ignition coil pickups
-retaining bolt for the timing rotor
-timing rotor cover plate and 3 bolts that keep it in place.

I'll have a look in the garage and see what I've got. Pretty sure I've got a spare timing coil plate that's got no coils on. The rotor retaining bolt is easy, you can get one of those at Wickes or B&Q. And, TBH,  the brake reservoir prob' just needs a bit of a sand down and some black touch up paint from Halfords.

The rotor cover plate will be hardest to find though - as you now know it's pretty much made of cheese and cracks if you so much as look at it funny, let alone drop it. From the looks of it you should be able to get the broken studs out of the clutch cover without too much problem but if you do find that's cracked too I know I've got at least two black ones and one silver one of those tucked away.

EDIT: BTW, that's the rustiest timing rotor I've ever seen. Has a bit of water managed to get in behind the rotor cover plate?

Daeouse

See! Not as bad as you dreaded AND help to be had! Gotta love this hobby! :cheers:
Jon "MotoSquirrel"
2009 Yamaha V-Star 950
My Blog!

lucas

The crankshaft is hardened steel, that soft bolt did nothing to the threads on the crankshaft. 

You might be able to back those sheared bolts out with a small punch and a hammer.  Angle the punch so that it will tend to rotate the remaining bit anti-clockwise and tap it.  When I've snapped bolts by over-tightening them they come right out, hopefully that is also the case with sheared bolts.

Worst case is that you replace that side cover and gasket.

TQM

Quote from: lucas on March 02, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
The crankshaft is hardened steel, that soft bolt did nothing to the threads on the crankshaft. 

You might be able to back those sheared bolts out with a small punch and a hammer.  Angle the punch so that it will tend to rotate the remaining bit anti-clockwise and tap it.  When I've snapped bolts by over-tightening them they come right out, hopefully that is also the case with sheared bolts.

Worst case is that you replace that side cover and gasket.

I've also had some luck drilling a very small hole though the middle of the sheared off bolt. If the clockwise action of the drill bit doesn't spin the remaining threaded stub out of the back of the hole then you can knock an oval nail into the middle of the stub and use pliers to rotate it out. This only really works though if the bolt has gone into an open-ended hole rather than a blind one.

The Buddha

Lefty drill bits will get the thing out as it bites into it.
Yea we're getting somewhere now.
Cool.
Buddha.
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Daeouse

Quote from: The Buddha on March 02, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Lefty drill bits will get the thing out as it bites into it.
Yea we're getting somewhere now.
Cool.
Buddha.

:cheers:
Hooray for progress!
Jon "MotoSquirrel"
2009 Yamaha V-Star 950
My Blog!

the_63

Quote from: TQM on March 02, 2016, 08:17:56 AM
Quote from: the_63 on March 02, 2016, 06:44:39 AM
Quote from: TQM on March 02, 2016, 06:30:13 AM
Where in the UK are you? I've been collecting parts for my own GS project(s)* for the last few months so prob' allready have multiples of the bits you need sitting in the garage. I'm a few miles north of London and work in the city.

*A pair of basket cases called Jessie and Gus. Both mid 90's GS500Es that I'm hoping to get back on the road this summer.

I'm not a million miles from London, I live in Norwich. I don't need many parts:

-brake lever and possibly the front brake reservoir
-mounting plate for the ignition coil pickups
-retaining bolt for the timing rotor
-timing rotor cover plate and 3 bolts that keep it in place.

I'll have a look in the garage and see what I've got. Pretty sure I've got a spare timing coil plate that's got no coils on. The rotor retaining bolt is easy, you can get one of those at Wickes or B&Q. And, TBH,  the brake reservoir prob' just needs a bit of a sand down and some black touch up paint from Halfords.

The rotor cover plate will be hardest to find though - as you now know it's pretty much made of cheese and cracks if you so much as look at it funny, let alone drop it. From the looks of it you should be able to get the broken studs out of the clutch cover without too much problem but if you do find that's cracked too I know I've got at least two black ones and one silver one of those tucked away.

EDIT: BTW, that's the rustiest timing rotor I've ever seen. Has a bit of water managed to get in behind the rotor cover plate?

awesome thank you. Truth is it was probably dropped at some point, in fact I'm inclined to think it been dropped quite a lot. I mean, I dropped it already and I haven't even had it a year  :oops:
Log book says I'm the 14th owner too and I'm quite certain the paint is custom. It doesn't match the year and every other purple GS I've seen have decals on them.

Thank you all for your help and advice. It has been really good to have the support.
'99 GS500ex (sookie)

the_63

A k2 cover should fit on a ex engine right?  :dunno_black:
'99 GS500ex (sookie)

sledge

Google says there about 5 bike breakers in or around Norwich.

Take a trip out on Saturday morning and If you cant find EVERYTHING you need for around £50 I will be amazed!!

And if you are planning on removing that cover, plan on buying a new gasket.


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