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I want to change my Tail to a R6 tail, HELP? lol

Started by remo2k9, December 22, 2009, 02:43:09 AM

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remo2k9

HI GUYS LOL, sooooo how to do this xD? anyone in australia , sydney? Noe any shop / wreckers selling r6 tails or other bike parts thats cheap! =( Lol this si my first bike gs500f 05 , going to try change the tail with only basic knowledge of a bike, anyone bored and want to post some HOW - TO's wit simple explaination , no technical words , and nice readable pictures ! x) WUD BE AAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Bluesmudge

I would totally undertake a brand new project just to document it step by step for you in non-technical terms with plenty of pictures but I'm not bored. Sorry.

remo2k9


tt_four

I put an old R1 tail on mine. You don't really need any motorcycle knowledge to do it. It's all just getting a new tail, setting it on the subframe, seeing why it doesn't fit, cutting that part off of the subframe, then you find some extra metal and make some new mounting brackets. You'll either have to cut up your seat, or but an R6 seat. I'll some pictures for you at a later point in time so you can see what I did to mine. I just cut a couple inches off the back of the subframe, bolted an r6 tail light to it, and just made 2 other little brackets to bolt it to the subframe. The last picture I posted was in the picture game thread at the bottom of this page.... http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=45412.1160 although I'm still working on cleaning it up over winter, but I'll find you some better pictures later.

remo2k9

nice , that wud really help me x) so r1 / r6 will fit on 2005 gs500f? xD HUnting timeeee

kml.krk

not to pick on you, but seeing that you had troubles understanding if you need to change rotors all together with brake pads or not, you may find modifying you sub-frame a little overwhelming at the moment...

stick to simpler mods at first, get a hang of your bike's handling, have fun and then modify hard stuff.

Also you will probably need a welding machine to fit a R6 tail on GS. (you need to 'attach' the brackets somehow to the GS sub-frame, and I doubt that JB weld is strong enough  ;) )

good luck
KML
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tt_four

Quote from: kml.krk on December 22, 2009, 08:59:58 AM
not to pick on you, but seeing that you had troubles understanding if you need to change rotors all together with brake pads or not, you may find modifying you sub-frame a little overwhelming at the moment...

Also you will probably need a welding machine to fit a R6 tail on GS. (you need to 'attach' the brackets somehow to the GS sub-frame, and I doubt that JB weld is strong enough  ;) )


How's your general mechanic ability? Like I said before, it is a bit of work to get it on, and you have to get creative at points, but you don't really need to know anything about motorcycles to fit the tail, so if you're ok at building things with your hands, you should be fine. You do need a couple extra brackets, but I can show you how I made mine. I just bolted them to the subframe using some already existing holes, and just bolt the tail right to those, pretty simple.

They fit, but they're not perfect. The lines of the tail match up pretty well but not exactly. Most of the ones I've seen that were really done well had the bottom rail of the subframe cut, lifted about an inch where it meets the main bar of the frame, and rewelded. You can do it without rewelding it but the subframe will stick down below the tail about an inch in the front, mine does.

My tail was from a 99 I believe, and it's just a solo race tail. I've seen people do normal tails and actually put in the work to attach the passenger seat, but the solo tail is much easier if you don't ride passengers. I'm not sure which newer ones will fit.

Over all it's a good winter project though.

Jim Knopf

servus,

one guy in germany have a perfect modification of a gs500f with a 03 R6 Tail.

Picture:



the best work i´ve ever seen.

for the email adresse from the guy, send me pm.


The Buddha

Naaa ... you just need to go to the local dealer and buy the Yamaha R6 tail stickers. Then find a suitable spot to slap them on.

BTW all the R6/RI GSXR/CBR tails all show the side view.
Not 1 shows it from straight above.

Can you say Queen Latifah ass on Lindsay Lohan.

Yup.
Cool.
Buddha.
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The Buddha

From above it pretty much looks like its fatter than the tank, which aesthetically looks weird, cos sport bikes are usually narrower in the seat than the tank.

Cool.
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gsf500RR

I disagree, I have seen a few bike that way and actually I tought it look really good.


tt_four

#12
Quote from: The Buddha on December 22, 2009, 11:20:32 AM

Can you say Queen Latifah ass on Lindsay Lohan.

Yup.
Cool.
Buddha.

don't get me excited!

It depends what tank you have on the bike. Most people who have done this swap did it with the old style tank, and yes, the tail looks super wide when you do that(althought no one can tell when you're actually on the bike). Since I've switched to the new style tank which is a lot wider, the tail fits it very well. My tail looks even wider than this one. I have pictures of it with both tanks so I'll try to post them both so you can compare.

Jim that tail swap looks really good. Looks like he moved the bottom rails of the subframe up so it fits the tail better. Someday when I can weld I'll probably move mine up a bit, which should help out, plus I may put in the extra effort to make the mounts so I can fit a normal road tail with a removable seat cowl so I actuallly have some storage. I could fit a small dog under my tail with how much space is under there now, but the problem is that I have to way to get under there!

gregvhen

hey on that first pic, what rear shock is that? looks like the bike is really high. does it have aftermarket dog bones? do longer bones or shorter bones raise the bike?

seamax

Quote from: gregvhen on December 22, 2009, 01:25:07 PM
hey on that first pic, what rear shock is that? looks like the bike is really high. does it have aftermarket dog bones? do longer bones or shorter bones raise the bike?

shorter. it took me while to picture it in my head.

post some pics JIM.

tt_four

looks like it's a number of things, first that's not even a GS shock, doesn't look like a GS swingarm, plus the bottom rail of the subframe has been cut and welded higher.

remo2k9

Quote from: kml.krk on December 22, 2009, 08:59:58 AM
not to pick on you, but seeing that you had troubles understanding if you need to change rotors all together with brake pads or not, you may find modifying you sub-frame a little overwhelming at the moment...

stick to simpler mods at first, get a hang of your bike's handling, have fun and then modify hard stuff.

Also you will probably need a welding machine to fit a R6 tail on GS. (you need to 'attach' the brackets somehow to the GS sub-frame, and I doubt that JB weld is strong enough  ;) )

good luck
KML

Ah yes wielder is coming in 20 days from my sister! xD and my dad / cousin have HIGH knowledge of motorbike so im not gonna be the one donig it  :bowdown: LOL

remo2k9

Quote from: tt_four on December 22, 2009, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: kml.krk on December 22, 2009, 08:59:58 AM
not to pick on you, but seeing that you had troubles understanding if you need to change rotors all together with brake pads or not, you may find modifying you sub-frame a little overwhelming at the moment...

Also you will probably need a welding machine to fit a R6 tail on GS. (you need to 'attach' the brackets somehow to the GS sub-frame, and I doubt that JB weld is strong enough  ;) )


How's your general mechanic ability? Like I said before, it is a bit of work to get it on, and you have to get creative at points, but you don't really need to know anything about motorcycles to fit the tail, so if you're ok at building things with your hands, you should be fine. You do need a couple extra brackets, but I can show you how I made mine. I just bolted them to the subframe using some already existing holes, and just bolt the tail right to those, pretty simple.

They fit, but they're not perfect. The lines of the tail match up pretty well but not exactly. Most of the ones I've seen that were really done well had the bottom rail of the subframe cut, lifted about an inch where it meets the main bar of the frame, and rewelded. You can do it without rewelding it but the subframe will stick down below the tail about an inch in the front, mine does.

My tail was from a 99 I believe, and it's just a solo race tail. I've seen people do normal tails and actually put in the work to attach the passenger seat, but the solo tail is much easier if you don't ride passengers. I'm not sure which newer ones will fit.

Over all it's a good winter project though.
yah i like building stuff ! would be a cool thing to try to do once i get a how to from u and then ill show u my result LOL hopefully will turn out aweeesomeee

remo2k9

Quote from: gsf500RR on December 22, 2009, 12:17:53 PM
I disagree, I have seen a few bike that way and actually I tought it look really good.


omg this bike is same colour as me I WANT HIS TAIL! =( what tail is that? and did he paint those colours himself

annguyen1981

That's either a GSXR 600/750/1000 tail... I don't know the difference between the three tails.

That is also stock paint on that tail.

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