Carbs rebuilt now wont start! could it be the weather??

[The Buddha]

To the post there is 1 fat wire and another one that is piggy backed on it. About 3 inches out from that there is a black plug that has to be plugged in right. That is where the trouble usually is. The battery post has them both crimped as 1 though.
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Buddha.

[kylegod]

What does it plug into exactly...sorry I'm in class otherwise I'd go see for myself

[Pigeonroost]

One lesson to be learned from this is NOT to do too many mods at one time.

prs

[kylegod]

One lesson to be learned from this is NOT to do too many mods at one time.

prs

Too many mods? Hmmm, All I did, pigeon, was install a K&N and rejet my carbs and installed new seals, o-rings, and float needles with "rebuild kits." The battery was on it's way out anyway, but I hardly consider this a mod, more like a maintenance thing.     

[gregvhen]

I have worked on over 300 carbs ... I am yet to "rebuild" one. So what did you do, put all new metal and everything ?

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what do you want a cookie?

[The Buddha]

I dont think he did too many mods. He did one or more mods wrong though ... sorry couldn't resist.

The wire is a single wire black with a white stripe I believe and its maybe 14-16 guage and fits into a single black plug with that clicking in thing. Make sure its getting good contact if it is even fitted.

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Buddha.

[gregvhen]

i think some one on this post was looking for the thread that compared dyno jet needle to stock needle?
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=51178.0

[kylegod]

What exactly does the needle do? And what's the point of tapering it like that

[The Buddha]

the steep taper causes several 1/4 to 3/4 throttle problems. The reason it is that way is that back when they started carbs all had no caps on their mixture screws. There fore you didn;t have to pull the carbs to jet them. Or carbs had mix screws on top ... either way, if that is the setup you can jet it by just removing the caps and swapping out your needle, no need to pull the carbs off the bike.
However on a GS that is impossible, mix screws need to be adjusted ... so its a stupid idea.

Now that steep taper causes too much of a change in mixture proportions because of the drastic nature and prevents it form making smooth transitions, and that is why they make you plug holes in your slides.

You do that and the slide slows its rate of rise and it seems to graduate the needle better. That still leaves too many things to adjust and get em right. Can you get it on the nose wiht a DJ pack in it - definetly, is it as slam dunk as the 40/125/3 turns/1 washer combo hell no.

Anyway now you did something wrong ... not just a bit lean here rich there and what not ... you did somehting huge ... like fit the carbs backwards ... you didn't happen to do that did you ?

I'd trouble shoot it pretty cheap ... free or under $25 even if I have to pull the carb apart ... but 2 way mailing gonna cost ya 20 bones ...

I dunno, some variation of operator error.

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Buddha.

[kylegod]

Carbs are on the right way. I have yet to check that battery wire. I will check in a few hours after work.  the kit was installed correctly. I've done carb work before so I have some background. I also have a ln extra set of gs500 carbs so I can go back to stock slides if dj really gives me a problem. But I'd like to give the dj kit a chance since I spent the money ya know?

[The Buddha]

Yea $$, time, thinking, sleep, busted knuckles, freezing cold ...

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[kylegod]

Exactly. Along with lady time, work, and apprenticeship school. 

[Pigeonroost]

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Too many mods? Hmmm, All I did, pigeon, was install a K&N and rejet my carbs and installed new seals, o-rings, and float needles with "rebuild kits." The battery was on it's way out anyway, but I hardly consider this a mod, more like a maintenance thing.     
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My bad.  I thought you had an exhaust change in there too.  I understand the "economy" of doing thing sin bunches, but it sure can get confuserated....

prs

[The Buddha]

We do everything in winter and wonder why nothing works in spring ... that's the rules.
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Buddha.

[kylegod]

it's all good. pipe came with bike.

[kylegod]

Aux wire was fine. Unclipped it, filed it and made a nice shiny new surface. No start. Even with that new battery, it sounds like it's struggling to crank. And as soon as I try to start it once the battery tender turns on it's red light which means charging...

I guess i'm taking carbs out and apart again next free day or night.

Any thoughts about this battery nonsense though?

[The Buddha]

Charge the battery ... the bloody cold man ... awful for batteries.
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[kylegod]

Suppose my battery tender isnt quite a proper charger then eh? It really struggles to crank and after the first time forget it...struggles real hard.

And Buddha, Id like to know what your package entails and cost. I have original slides and needles to go back to if DJ doesnt work out. So..can ya give me a quote and what Id get.
K&N in stock box. Corbra f1 pipe. Those are only mods. You give main jet, washers, and a pilot jet? Is this correct? Thanks. Been a big help.

[The Buddha]

$25 shipped for jet pack, free to $25 for trouble shooting DJ with no guarantees, free to $25 for mikuni trouble shooting with a guarantee it will work (or trouble isn't in the carb) and add shipping to the carb work prices.

$45 for a rejet - parts and labor of course add shipping ... only 1 pair of stuff drill out included.

And please dont send me anything now, its gonna be freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezing cold for 2 weeks ... then I got welding anniversary and kiddo's B'day ... nothing till feb ... sorry.

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Buddha.

[kylegod]

What do you drill? I was planning on just getting the kit shipped to me...confused... Main, pilot, and washers is the kit? Sorry if im missing something ha, long day.