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Started by kapiteinkoek, May 21, 2015, 08:03:02 AM

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kapiteinkoek

I figured I'd share my first 3D printed part with you guys. Its a quick throttle clip to increase sensitivty of the throttle:

Sketchup design:


a present from the UPS mailman


installed:


You can find the clip on shapeways.com

The clip in the picture is a little bit too short but works perfectly. I already updated the model on shapeways for a perfect fit.


I also modeled the carubetor slide guides because mine were worn out and I cannot order them from Suzuki:

Can be found here on shapeways

I have never had those printed because I found the same part on a BMW motorcycle and BMW is a nice guy who actually can deliver us the wearable part:

BMW article number 13 11 2343374

However a few days ago an unknown person ordered the slide guide from shapeways (he probably couldnt find a place to order new ones, damn you suzuki!) so they were printed succesfully recently.

Welcome to future fellow GS500 drivers  ;)

Iarn

#1
Sweet! A great contribution to the forum. You should see about printing harder to acquire parts. Many people here are having trouble finding the plastic nipple tips that the vacuum tubes connect to. Buying them separately is impossible and the whole assembly is very expensive.

Now, how much for an entire GS500?

akapellen17

How does that piece increase throttle sensitivity?
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kapiteinkoek

Quote from: akapellen17 on May 21, 2015, 08:30:07 AM
How does that piece increase throttle sensitivity?

When you increase the diameter of the grip the throttle opens further for every degree you turn it. For example the standard grip requires a ~90 degree turn to reach 100% throttle. With the clip you only need to turn it ~60 degrees to reacht 100%.
It does make the grip a little heavier to turn. I have found it to be a quite nice feeling up to 80km/h. I havent tested it on the highway yet where I use my GS the most (100-130 km/h). The heavier throttle may be a setback there because it requires more effort to hold it but we'll see. I had it printed because somebody with a GS asked how he could increase sensitivity of the throttle so I helped him out.

Slack

Quote from: akapellen17 on May 21, 2015, 08:30:07 AM
How does that piece increase throttle sensitivity?

The cable wraps around the outside of that section. As you roll the throttle the cable is pulled around the circumference of the cam. By making the cam larger, you increase the circumference, and increase how much cable is pulled per degree of throttle rotation.
Quote from: MeeLee on June 07, 2015, 07:14:25 PM
Be aware, this is not very wise advise!

Slack

Quote from: kapiteinkoek on May 21, 2015, 09:35:26 AM
Quote from: akapellen17 on May 21, 2015, 08:30:07 AM
How does that piece increase throttle sensitivity?

When you increase the diameter of the grip the throttle opens further for every degree you turn it. For example the standard grip requires a ~90 degree turn to reach 100% throttle. With the clip you only need to turn it ~60 degrees to reacht 100%.
It does make the grip a little heavier to turn. I have found it to be a quite nice feeling up to 80km/h. I havent tested it on the highway yet where I use my GS the most (100-130 km/h). The heavier throttle may be a setback there because it requires more effort to hold it but we'll see. I had it printed because somebody with a GS asked how he could increase sensitivity of the throttle so I helped him out.

Beat me to it.
Hypothetically the throttle should only feel heavier when adding throttle, not when holding it steady.

Is this part cheaper then an R6 throttle tube? ($10)
Quote from: MeeLee on June 07, 2015, 07:14:25 PM
Be aware, this is not very wise advise!

kapiteinkoek

The R6 tube fits and has a larger diameter than the GS tube?
Anyway in The Netherlands you have to pay about $17 for the tube. The clip is less than $5 (+ a little bit of shipping, there is a shapeway production facility in my country). Also lazy people will prefer the clip because you dont have to remove the handlebar weight to get to the tube eh  :icon_razz:

Slack

Quote from: kapiteinkoek on May 21, 2015, 09:51:04 AM
The R6 tube fits and has a larger diameter than the GS tube?
Anyway in The Netherlands you have to pay about $17 for the tube. The clip is less than $5 (+ a little bit of shipping, there is a shapeway production facility in my country). Also lazy people will prefer the clip because you dont have to remove the handlebar weight to get to the tube eh  :icon_razz:

Yes, there is an R6 throttle tube thread some where on here. It's a 1/4 turn throttle, so maybe even snappier then the one you designed.
That's a good price.
I had thought about ease of installation as a plus. Especially if you have nice grips you want to keep.
Quote from: MeeLee on June 07, 2015, 07:14:25 PM
Be aware, this is not very wise advise!

bmf

Nice, thanks for sharing. what choice of materials can one choose from for different parts?
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kapiteinkoek

#10
Quote from: bmf on May 21, 2015, 10:07:58 AM
Nice, thanks for sharing. what choice of materials can one choose from for different parts?

The material I enabled on shapeways is laser sintered nylon. It is a pretty strong and sturdy type of plastic with just enough flexibility to be pushed on the grip. Shapeways as much more materials available tough ranging from plastics to stuff like steel, ceramics and gold.
https://www.shapeways.com/materials?li=nav
Depending on the material you choose your parts may become madly expensive  :wink:

Quote from: Slack on May 21, 2015, 09:57:14 AM
...maybe even snappier then the one you designed.

I doubt that because the clip is almost maxing out the available space  ;)

Quote from: Iarn on May 21, 2015, 08:15:20 AM
Many people here are having trouble finding the plastic nipple tips that the vacuum tubes connect to. Buying them separately is impossible and the whole assembly is very expensive.


By the way what is this about? I have a 96 gs500 and I'm not aware of problems with nipples. I've had a 2001 for parts briefly and the only nipple problem I can remember is that one of them needed for carb syncing was hard to reach.

ragecage23

Quote from: Iarn on May 21, 2015, 08:15:20 AM
Sweet! A great contribution to the forum. You should see about printing harder to acquire parts. Many people here are having trouble finding the plastic nipple tips that the vacuum tubes connect to. Buying them separately is impossible and the whole assembly is very expensive.

Yes! I still need this part.

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Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

X-ray

If they have clear or translucent plastic, what about the colored lenses on the gauge cluster for high beam, neutral, signal , and oil?
'93 gs500 w/ Red Oxide primer paint job. Hasn't been on the road in years but wrenching on it is my escape.

ShowBizWolf

oooooh that is a great idea!!!  :star:
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ragecage23

If someone can make this happen, I will pay money.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

kapiteinkoek

#15
If you can provide me the dimensions of those nipple things i can model them and put them on shapeways for you. Its a small part so it should be pretty cheap.
And what is tbe idea with gauge lenses?

-edit
ohhhh now I understand after seeing this picture





Thats an easy part to model. If somebody has the piece and can provide us with the dimensions I can do that for you. If it helps I can reposition the nipple anywhere you want.

And by the way shapeways does not provide colored translucent plastics. iMaterialise on the other hand does although I'm not sure if those are the colors you would want
http://i.materialise.com/materials/transparent-resin

Sculpteo also has some options
http://www.sculpteo.com/en/resin-material

Otherwise you have to stain/paint the plastic yourself.

mennobike

 :bowdown: 3d printing rare parts, genius!
I'll have no idea what piece you're referring to unless you include one of the following: Doobly doo, thing-a-ma-jigger, or dibbledy dop.

kapiteinkoek

#17


Spent a couple of minutes in sketchup to show that its easily done  ;)

Obviously the dimensions are a bit off because I dont know them. Also in a final version I'd apply less round corners because that can be a real hassle to model 'watertight' which is required for 3D printing.

ragecage23

How would I give you dimensions on something that's 3-D? And I could care less about color and material, as long as it functions properly.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

kapiteinkoek

#19
We have faith in you. I'd use a vernier caliper  ;)





That should get me going

I could also use a picture of the inside of the part else I can't give directions or model that.

Another option is that you find yourself an envelope and get that part (broken nipple is not a problem) to The Netherlands. I'll go nuts with a caliper for you  :cheers:

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