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Steez's Stable
« on: June 16, 2015, 12:05:44 PM »
Miss you goons so I figured I'd make a project thread for the bikes to keep me popping in for a visit. Sold all my big bikes while I'm rebuilding the Subaru(full wrx swap), but recently picked up a jewel and I'm whoring it out everywhere haha!!



1983 RG250, still doing my research on it, but I believe she's a RG250WD  Gamma MK-1. Japanese import E-00(km/h clock and dual front disc). It has the optional lower fairing, solo seat, and appears to be complete as she sits. Came with a nice clean FL title

Needs a little tlc, has some history showing, but that's the way I like em! Interior of the tank is nearly spotless and overall bike is in good shape. Previous owner has had it for ~6 years, although it hasn't been stored in a climate controlled environment as I would prefer. It has been kept neatly tucked in the back corner if a covered shelter out of the direct weather/sun light. Previous owner bought it off ebay, but hasn't ridden it in some time(~2 years). Had it freshened up when he first bought it, but then saw some oil in the coolant so he took it off the road and she's been sitting since.. Hoping it's just a water pump seal, but I'm not taking any chances. I'll be giving her new fluids and inspecting everything I can before a fresh gas test start.

I'm absolutely in love with her style, history of this specifc bike, and the legendary path suzuki laid out with the technology in the RG! I had been working with the PO for a few months trying to hammer out a deal. I about gave up on it, but after searching for another candidate, I realized this was going to scratch my itch in a way many other bikes can not. To find such a rare(for over here) Suzuki street 2 stroke was dream come true. Too bad I'm not a yama guy, PO also has a couple rd's and a gorgeous rv5 he's willing to let go out of his collection.

This RG will be kept in my collection for many years to come. So I've made a spot for her in the shop and will enjoy every minute I get

So far I've:
-Dropped the battery(PO bought it new a couple years back) on my trickle charger to find it has a dead cell.
-Drained the coolant to find only a bit of residue in the top of the rad. Not much at all though so that's a good sign.
-Drained the oil, which was clean(looked brand new) and free of any coolant! Good news for me

Next step is to get a new waterpump seal kit on order, pull the cover and replace the mech and oil seals. While I'm waiting for the seals I'll probably pull the carbs for a spit shine and give the bike a general clean/tlc.

I did pick up this little unit. Actually found the right model and dress so I had to jump on it!
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 07:37:33 AM by steezin_and_wheezin »
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2015, 01:29:57 PM »
This post is awesome!!!  That bike looks sweet, I love the colors, the seat, the light... everything.  What a find!  Thank you for sharing, I enjoyed reading your write-up.

Finding that little model too... icing on the cake  :D

Can't wait to see more pics of this gem.
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2015, 02:29:13 PM »
Whoa.... just..... whoa.

Steezin, that is a rad little scoot. Hopefully you don't run into any bad surprises and get to enjoy the ride soon....

And may add: 1983 was a great year for Suzuki!
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2015, 03:25:39 PM »
Street legal 2 strokes rock!
Can't wait to hear it.
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 12:30:56 AM »
Steezin, good to see you posting again. That's a sweet ride ya got there. As for the model, I've been building scale models since i was a kid, if you didn't know that's a very nice kit you have. Do you plan on building it? Or just keeping it because?
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2015, 12:01:38 PM »
'Preciate it friends!! I've been after her for a while now.. still my heart skips a beat when I see her peepin at me from the shop haha

@ Fink - Plan to build this one, may pick up another to have my small showcase(sealed model, complete, and full size). I haven't done a model since my Plymouth Prowler model though. Oh.. just short of 20 years ago! So I'm looking forward to getting back into the small scale creatures. I do know the detail and quality of the Tamiya scaled models are second to none. I followed another forum friend that was doing his MB5 tamiya to match his MB. His turn out great, and with a little camera trickery you couldn't hardly tell em apart!! Here's a photo of his finished model.
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2015, 07:36:15 AM »
New homemade workbench to get me out of the shop and into some of this gorgeous weather we've been having. Meet Nancy;



A bit o history;
I've always messed with the small bikes since my work commute is 3 mile round trip of city driving. Crazy to kick up a big bike everyday, so the 50cc'ers have filled that void well. I actually get pretty excited to brap home! I've mess with a few of the other shifty fifties(50cc manual clutch  with a 5/6 speed trans) - couple mb5's and a RX50. They were fun, but didn't really do much for me. I've always seen the NS50F and dreamed of finding one someday. That day came when someone posted a fleabay ad on mopedarmy. The asking price was right, she was running/riding, and in pretty decent nick. A fella and his pops from Spring Grove, PA had fixed her up. I caught wind of it and jump without hesitation. PO was nice enough to bring it down to MD. Went and snoitched her up - after a quick title, tag and registration I was road ready.

First picking her up from Maryland


The other ladies she came home with


First long ride


First day runnin' errands with her


She's the only Honda that will likely never leave my collection. Scored a set of side plastics with the OG decals still intact!!


I've clicked over just short of 500 miles so far and I've absolutely in love.

It was time for the first major round of maintenance - Drained and swapped all new fluids(gear oil, engine oil, and coolant), first good cleaning, and chain clean/lube/adjustment;








New tar coming in soon! The spokers are a little rusty so I'm debating on painting them while they're off and I'll sort my sticky rear brake.
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2015, 08:15:05 AM »
WOW! That is a neat bike and those side plastics... what a find!!! I love it  :D
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2015, 12:21:51 PM »
'Preciate it!

Was excited to see both the RG250 packages arrived pretty quickly from across the pond. Going to hold off on the model until the real deal is road worthy.





Pulled the cover, broke the waterpump down and pulled the seals. Saw something suspect when pulling the the mechanical seal, confirmed when I set it side by side with the new one.. Mechanical and oil seal are too large of a diameter. Was listed for an '83, but I was lazy and didn't pull the part number to confirm..









Clutch gasket and new seals on order. Also noticed the clutch was sticking, so I'll pull that, hopefully only needs a good cleaning. I don't mind paying for shipping to get parts for her, but damn the waiting game is killing me!
« Last Edit: July 02, 2015, 12:22:38 PM by steezin_and_wheezin »
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2015, 01:11:48 PM »
Hey Steezin, I don't know much (ok, next to nothing) about the baby RG.... but seeing the "Full Floater Suspension " sticker tells me there are some things worth mentioning. First, a Ducati Monster (600?) shock might be a suitable replacement. I can find more details if needed. And the rear caliper / rotor might be able to switched out for GS500 / Katana parts.
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2015, 06:26:25 AM »
'Preciate it Big Rich! I'm going to keep her as stock as possible for the time being, but have been toying around with some cross referenced parts idea as well!

The RG is a true piece of history. The first full production GP inspired and nearly all the GP tech that went into the race bikes of its day. The RG is the first fully boxed aluminum frame ever produced. As well as the fully faired race type aero fairings. The rear full floater suspension is still hard for me to comprehend haha. The front end has an anti-dive system that uses brake fluid to stiffen the forks under heavy braking. This being the Japanese model it came with dual disc front end(all other 83's came with the single disc fronts). She has many other goodies to note, but y'all know I can ramble all day about my babies! haha

(Sorry for the cellie photos, hands were too filthy to pull out the nice cam..)
After missing my clutch side gasket delivery Saturday I was miffed I had to wait until Monday to move forward. USPS mang showed up Monday with no redelivery! So I hopped on my other moto and went to scoop the gasket. Got home and had a couple mintues to spare before heading out on the river for some floating/fishing. Managed to get the waterpump rebuilt and the covers/engine mating surfaces cleaned up. I did have 1 concern - After assembling the water pump gears, I noticed they weren't spinning as freely as I would have assumed. Not sure how freely they are suppose to spin though.. Anyone have any first hand experience? They gear's aren't binding and there's no bearing noise, but just feels there's a little bit of drag when turning the impeller.





That was a good stopping point so we grabbed our tubes and fishing poles and headed to the river. Not much sun, but it was nice and hot and the small mouth bass were biting!

Got home and unloaded the river rat gear. After some dinner I was right back down in the shop. Got the sticky clutch pulled and cleaned up. Not much meat left on it, but it's now free and functioning. I'll replace the plates and get some new springs after I give her a clean bill of health. Buttoned the cover back up and moved to the carbs.





True to normal Suzuki, they started with an airbox and built the damn bike around it!! Tank, covers, and batt box removed and I still couldn't find a hole big enough to squeeze it through. So I did a little wiggling and cussing and ended up with 2 free carbs! And man they are beauts!



Will pull and clean the carbs next chance I get. Then new fluids all around, fresh battery, and the first true kick!! I'm ecstatic to bring her back to life, and hear her first breath in too many years of hibernation!

Tamiya paints and cement came in over the weekend for the scaled model. Should start building it's engine here in the next few weeks.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 08:16:03 AM by steezin_and_wheezin »
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2015, 08:15:38 AM »
Got the carbs cleaned, reassembled and back in the bike.







Left on the list was only fresh fluids and test fire! So flushed the gas tank and oil reservoir. Filled the rad up while I was flushing and cleaning the coolant overflow tank. Went back and noticed ALL the coolant had disappeared form the rad!?! Immediately pulled the drain plug to find all my coolant in the crankcase..



Whomp Whomp...

Waterpump rebuild was a complete failure! It's been years since I've rebuilt a watercooled bike(my last was a couple drz's ~5 years ago) and this was my first waterpump rebuild ever, so I knew I'd have a learning curve. But damn, didn't think I'd blow it as bad as I did haha.

Luckily I didn't have any oil as I was working with the waterpump and wanted to work my way back from it. So I pulled the cover back off, got all the coolant out, and will be testing the pump to see where I messed up next chance I get.

Unfortunately I have some bigger irons in the fire currently so the RG will be put on the side burner. At least until I get some other pertinent things wrapped up. Was really hoping to hear her run, but it's all a process.
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2015, 08:52:41 AM »
Nancy my ns50 has been carrying my ass to work on the regs. Clocked nearly 2k miles on her so far. Also bought a local legend in the small shredped world's old repair shop and inventory after he passed away. I'm stoked and stocked up to my eyeballs. This is barely half the bikes and not even close to a fraction of the parts;


I'm in a bit over my head, but I'm honored to carry on this collection and help with late wife get out from under it all. I'll be starting my own small two stroke repair shop on the side with all I've gained from this amazing collection! Who needs a shredped??


Bought a new dirtie from a friend. Carb clean and fresh plug and she's back in action.

Got a little momentum going after getting a dirt bike I picked up running again. Decided I needed to dig back into the RG to help that sinking feeling I had in my guts about leaving here..

No photos on this, just a bunch of ramblings - sorry, not sorry

Sat down and pulled the cover back off. Filled the wet side of the pump to see where my leak was coming from. Not a single drip out from the pump area.. So I took a glance around to see where I could be leaking. Noticed I left a nasty bit of OG gasket material on the mating surface(cover and engine case side) around the waterpump area. Pulled out my trusty blade, cleaned it up, and felt that had to be the issue.

After looking at the cheapo athena gasket I noticed maybe she needed a bit of gasket sealer to help fill the gap. Didn't have any black rtv, so against my better judgment I used some grey I had laying around.. I know from past failures the grey doesn't hold to the heat, but shops were closed and I wanted to see if my gasket was the leaky culprit. So I lathered up the bottom edge and pump area on gasket, replaced cover and re-tightened. Went and ate some dinner to let the rtv set as much as possible.

Came back down and fill the rad with fresh coolant. 15 mins and she was still holding solid. Took the drain plug out to insure nothing new was being introduced into the crank case. All was well in the shop!! So I knocked down the other bits on my check list(ks lever, battery, fresh oil, capped rad and topped off the coolant ressy, fresh lucas semi synth in the oil res, fresh gas in tank, and aired up tires) and backed her outside for the first time in months. Turned the fuel on and of course she started pissing on the concrete.. Looked and I had tweaked the main fuel line to carb nearly off its spout on petcock. Snugged it down and no more dripping. Let it sit with fuel for a while before trying to kick, and sure enough my right carb's drain line was leaking. Snugged the drain screws down and still was dribbling. Not sure why, will need to dig back into the carbs to sort it out.. Pulled the drain line out and aimed her up to keep the carb bowl full.

- Moment of truth -
Fuel on and key on. 3 kicks in she sputtered and let me know she's ready. Next kick started right up but was struggling to idle. Oh yeah let me try choke..... Choke on and she leveled right out. Warmed up nicely and sounded absolutely fantastic!!!! First time hearing her breath, and first breath she took in ~3 years. Choke off and she idle like she should. Fuel off and shut her down and went to grab a helmet. Got back and kicked her up first step. Got half way around my neighborhood before she fell flat on her face.. Ding ding, turn fuel back on dummy. Was so damn excited to hear her and finally ride I forgot everything else I needed haha. Fuel on and I made it a full lap around the block, sounded great(unbelievably great, I mean the best sounding bike I've heard in too long), temps were nice and level in the mids, power felt face melting fast compared to the small two smokers I've been riding. Handling was top notch, brakes were all fully functional, and felt good to have disc brake back in my grips. Everything about the ride just makes me smile, even though;

Pulled down to my back porch and eyed a bit of drippage. Noticed some of the grey RTV was looking soft from the heat. Then I spotted some coolant on the side of the pipe. Yup RTV grey let go and I had some coolant in the bottom end again... Coolant reservoir had only lost a dip so not much made it in the crankcase. Still a definite win determining and temporarily fixing the leak, and finding out my waterpump rebuild wasn't the root of the problem! Drained the bottom end and will be flushing it thoroughly before moving forward again.

Going to hunt for a OEM spec gasket, but if no luck - I'll use another athena with the correct gasket maker next time. Wish I would've snapped a photo or nabbed a quick vid, but I was over the moon and didn't want to look at or touch anything but Gamma named Anna.
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2015, 10:57:04 AM »
This is awesome man.  So much potential there.  You have another full time job on your hands fixing and moving all those things.


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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2015, 02:08:53 PM »
Wow, that's a helluva collection. Sorry to hear about the owner passing, but it's nice to know the bikes aren't headed to a scrap yard.

Good news on the RG too!
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2015, 09:06:40 AM »
The RG has been stripped naked for a detailed clean over the winter. Picked up another zuki 2t, and have a few more on the radar. Once my parts buyer's check comes in I'll add a couple more to the collection!!

Just picked up this from the original owner's widow. Oozes style! 1973 Suzuki GT250
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2015, 01:02:28 PM »
that rgv is godly :D I've lusted after a 2/ 500 race rep for so long now it'd settle for a 250 any day :icon_mrgreen:
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2015, 05:22:30 PM »
So. . . much. . . WANT!!!

I hear my wallet weeping, because I see some beauties in there I want! But I'm poor, so I'll admire them from afar.  :embarrassed:
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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2015, 12:51:41 PM »
Ohh the RGV is on my list to snatch up.. my red one is just the parallel 2 cylinder RG unfortunately.

1980 Suzuki RS250, finally.. Not the easiest bike to find. Street legal vintage two stroke. Basically a slightly detuned RM power plant in the PE chassis. Was pretty disappointed with the power output of the TS I've had in the past. So I've been hunting for a title-able 250cc thumper since. The RS is a 'parts bin' bike, made from what's left before Suzuki switched to the mono shocked RM/PE's. However, it was a very well done bike and suits my needs perfectly. I've hear rumors(will be doing more digging later) that there was only 500 of these put together. Meet #277 - a nearly 100% original, 2 owner bike and I'm in love!



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Re: Steez's Stable
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2015, 12:28:35 PM »

so much bikes!! ! !!!

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