So, today I'm sitting in the Dr, office had already been there two hours getting ultrasounds done and still had to get my blood drawn. I was kinda spaced out watching the news channel when this older Spanish guy gets right in my face shouting "you are a disgrace to God" I was kinda startled and was like " What are you talking about?"
He shouts "Is that your motorcycle in the handicapped spot?"
"yeah, but if you look I have a legal handicapped tag"
" I don't care if you ride a motorcycle your not disabled" This whole time he has his hands on the arms of my chair. I tell him he needs to back up before there are problems. He starts calling me every name in the book but a white person" I nudge him back so I can get out of my chair. And well I did a non-Christian thing I started into screaming at him. Mind you this is in the middle of a Dr. Office. I get a huge adrenaline dump and I start having an arrythmia and make it out of the door where I drop to one knee from the dizziness. I guess my doc heard the commotion and had seen what this a$$clown had done to me. She tells him to get back over to the other side of the office and she comes out to tend to me.
Honestly, why can't people just mind their own business. Now my chest is killing me and I feel like shiate!
Mary
Sounds like a duck move on his part, but why do you have a handicap tag?
Sorry you had to put up with an arrogant piece of work...some people don't realize that not all handicaps are immediately visible...can't believe no one got him out of your face... >:(
Later.
I have stage three heart failure for starters, Crohn's disease, three knee surgeries, two herniated disc in my back, an implanted defibrillator, ATM also have a three inch hole in my chest, a picc line in my right arm, and can't walk more than 100ft without getting short of breath.
But, it doesn't really matter does it? My doctor filled out the appropriate paperwork I got the appropriate tag from the DMV. I feel that I should not have to "prove" I'm disabled to every jerkwad that thinks otherwise. If I'm breaking the law call a LEO and let him do his job otherwise STFU and leave me alone!
Mary
Hypochristians...
Old guy or not ...extend your leg/raise your foot abruptly...that was a form of assault he did there...
You know I've seen plenty of blatantly non-handicapped people roll into a spot and then fish out one of those placards they hang on the rear view mirror ( which they probably bought/ had made...). Then just about jog into a store/whatever...
I can see why a person could get agitated when they see a bike in a spot...but if you have the tags-it's your spot too...I mean do people think you peddle the bike there?
So did you offer him a steaming hot cup of Shut the flock up?
Red,why does she have Handicapped tag(s).... Heart problems among other problems come to mind... I don't think they want you to hike real far til you're all squared up and healthy again... (Mary replied while I was typing this)
My father has eaten himself into diabetes... he got one of those placards... and it's bullshlt - and I've said so.
Honestly, form first view If you arent riding a trike i'd kinda be mad to, I think if your capabale of riding a motorcycle then at first sight you'd probabaly be able to walk from a normal spot to leave it open for an older person. I understand you have multpiple conditions but at first sight when people see someone ona motorcycle they don't understand that.
Quote from: Jared on February 04, 2011, 09:36:38 PM
Red,why does she have Handicapped tag(s).... Heart problems among other problems come to mind... I don't think they want you to hike real far til you're all squared up and healthy again... (Mary replied while I was typing this)
Well then I'd say it's pretty deserving of a tag, I know it just kind of looks bad. Riding a bike and being labeled handicapped generally don't go hand in hand. That just means you're a real trooper :thumb:
Should have given him a taste of a Shoei flavoured helmet Mary.
You know what dude I have a tag that should be Flucking it END OF STORY. It is only the job of law enforcement to give me a ticket if I am illegally parked. I know guys that have one leg that ride Busa's are they disabled? I'm also not the only person in Florida that has a motorcycle handicapped tag so apparently the state of Florida believes you can be disabled and ride to.
It really doesn't take very much physical effort to ride a motorcycle. I park in a way that I don't have to push my bike. When I get home it is the BF that puts it on the center stand because I'm to weak to do it! I really do wish some of you young kids could walk a mile in my shoes because I don't think you could really handle it!
My bike is the last thing that I have that makes me feel somewhat normal in a world where the only constant companion that I have is PAIN and lots of it. Imagine everytime you walk across the parking lot you get the same type of chest pain that someone who is having a heart attack has. Wouldn't you want to park up front too? The other day at school I had to climb three flights of stairs because the elevator was broken it took me 25 minutes to get my breath back and due to the lack of oxygen to my brain I couldn't even concentrate for the rest of the class because everything was foggy!
My life sucks enough as it is I don't need help in making it worse. So, for the love of God just leave the people alone if they are breaking the law it will catch up to them. But, harassing a person who really is disabled to me is a bigger crime. Because, I will suffer for the next few days with severe fatigue. More than likely I won't be able to get out of bed tomorrow because my heart will be cranky as hell and walking to the bathroom will most likely induce excruciating chest pain!
Mary
Serenity NOW...
Feel Better Mary...just know that Karma will even it out...
I know Jared I'm just having a rough day! I let 10 years of looks, comments, and confrontations out today. I don't think the guy really realized just how tall I am I'm 5'8" and with my security training know how to handle myself. When I pushed him back and stood up his demeanor completely changed. But, this skirmish cost me not sure how much yet. I'm fortunate that I didn't go into a full blown arrythmia and ended up back in the hospital or worse.
I don't think I would have minded if he asked me I would have been more than happy to show him the permanent tag because sometimes it is easy to miss. Bike plates aren't big to begin with. But, don't attack me or yell at me treat me as a human being. I even get upset at people taking advantage of it. I tried going back to my part-time job this week first time in a month and a half. I was doing TNA wrestling so I "know" alot of the folks that go to it because they always go. I saw one particular woman have a walker and I'd never seen her with one before. I'm sure she didn't know that I was disabled because I don't broadcast it because in security it can be a liability for one to know how weak I really am. She told me " Oh I picked this up at a flea market and bring it here so I will get the best seats and everyone will be nice to me" My blood was boiling. That woman is one of the reasons that I have to go through what I went through today.
What I would give to be healthy :cry: No one expects a heart problem at 21. All of my docs say that a heart transplant is in my very near future. But, I try to still "live" my life.
I just want to be left alone.
Mary
Quote from: Jared on February 04, 2011, 10:00:25 PM
Serenity NOW...
Feel Better Mary...just know that Karma will even it out...
Aye karmas a Buddha Loves You Eh?, i hope that guy gets a dose of what he dosed out, or a decent helping of shut the fluck up. heck i cant get help for nothign. BUT ive seen quite a few people who are disabled riding motos. but i dislike the term disabled. or handicapped. or whatever. i saw a good movie the other night on pbs http://www.goodwillsouthflorida.org/TheSpiritofGoodwillBand. it shows me that no matter what ails you, you can do whatever it is you wish to do with enough determination
By all means let it out- I'm a big fan of Instant Karma....(That is you give it right back....like you did..).
Definition of Stress ( I had this shirt at one time ):
That confusion that results when the mind overrides the body's desire to choke the living sheit out of some a$$hole who desperately needs it.
Serenity Now is from Seinfeld....little joke...(Lloyd Braun....."Serenity Now...Insanity later...").
Hope you feel alright soon.
Boy, you hit that right on the head Jared. Ah, I will probably sleep in tomorrow then go out and have a nice and relaxing ride on Flick! At least my bike and my cat don't judge me. The cat just wants her NIP!
Yeah, I saw that episode of Seinfeild pretty funny!
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on February 04, 2011, 11:24:46 PM
Boy, you hit that right on the head Jared. Ah, I will probably sleep in tomorrow then go out and have a nice and relaxing ride on Flick! At least my bike and my cat don't judge me. The cat just wants her NIP!
Yeah, I saw that episode of Seinfeild pretty funny!
Mary
my cat dammit is a nipper as well. gets hateful as hell when he dont get his fix. plus he likes to chase lasers
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on February 04, 2011, 11:24:46 PM
Boy, you hit that right on the head Jared. Ah, I will probably sleep in tomorrow then go out and have a nice and relaxing ride on Flick! At least my bike and my cat don't judge me. The cat just wants her NIP!
Yeah, I saw that episode of Seinfeild pretty funny!
Mary
Talk to your cat about nip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jByDLjI3IIU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lajko1#p/u/14/hxbTUitZwm0
Here's Akasha! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfp2uBga_74
Mary
Yea! Kliban cat sheets! I'm a Kliban fan, too.
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Assorted/IMGP0959a.jpg)
he was just mad u beat him to the spot.
should have kicked him in the nuts.
also, folks with disabled tags have all kinds of reasons. just because maw runs in or hops or jogs, she may have a 7year old that is handicapped and crying hef eyes out at home because of pain. prescritpions get lost nad out of date , but usually when a kid really needs it.
I'm slowly learning not to judge so quickly.
tbc...
also let's raise the fine for using a hc parking spot to $600 or so, and pay it into a high yield fund for pick-your-charity-at-the-time-of-paying.
anyone wiith a legitimate plackard knows it can be contested and rescended by a descent judge.
+1
Quote from: Twisted on February 04, 2011, 09:45:54 PM
Should have given him a taste of a Shoei flavoured helmet Mary.
Why ruin a perfectly good helmet? Keep a padlock tied to a rag in your pocket. :cheers:
Yup, assault with a weapon...that's what she needs...wouldn't affect her job at all... :cookoo:
Later.
Quote from: madjak30 on February 05, 2011, 07:05:45 PM
Yup, assault with a weapon...that's what she needs...wouldn't affect her job at all... :cookoo:
Later.
True jak, BUT this could be interpreted as a case of self defense no?, from her post she was a hell of alot more patient, than most people would be. if somebody gets in my personal space like than, unless theyre saving my life or somethign. theyve got 5 seconds to back off
You know, it's funny how people react to situations sometimes...when I am in that type of situation, I come across as a wuss...I don't stand up for myself very well, but my blood boils when I see things (or hear about them) happening to people that I care about...I'm the big softie in the corner, or a teddy bear...so I've been told...but God help the poor soul that does that to someone I feel is under my protection...
I know, it's the internet...and I can be a tough guy in here...so all this is fluff...
Anyway, I hate to hear about this crap happening to someone that I think may need some protection...and I don't even know her...it's funny how you get attached to people that you don't know...internet friends... :embarrassed:
Sorry, I think I have a "Big Brother" complex... :cheers:
Later.
Awwwww, Mad that actually made my afternoon. I've had a piss-poor day my heart currently hates me! Walking to the bathroom and my HR is 140 and out of breath. How much does it suck that taking a Krap wipes you out! Went to Wal-Mart with a friend she's quite a bit older than me but we don't get the looks when I go with her even though it is my hanging placard. Part of me wanted to take the scooter (yeah, I felt that bad today) but ended up not doing it. Just been one of those days.
just get me a good lung and heart I'll be happy. But again even that has it's complications!
Mary
A "handicap" placard or plate is not a benefit anyone with a disability really wants. We had one for about 6 months while my daughter was re-learning how to walk. We only used it when necessary, like busy (dangerous) parking lots like Wal-mart. The disability is a very high price to pay for a good parking spot.
We were VERY glad to park in normal parking spots when she got stronger!
I hear ya there Paul. Sometimes even my friends don't think and they will say your lucky you get to park up front. Then I ask them what their blood type is and if they would like to trade hearts. If so they can have my tag! Usually, only have to say that once. I've found very few "perks" of a heart problem. And if you look at a lot of handicapped spots they now put them at the end of the store and that qualifies because the ramp is there. At most gas stations here in Florida the handicapped spots are usually at the very end of the row now because that is where the ramp is. It is the distance that tends to kill me but no one cares about that anymore.
Mary
Quote from: Paulcet on February 06, 2011, 12:01:42 AM
A "handicap" placard or plate is not a benefit anyone with a disability really wants. We had one for about 6 months while my daughter was re-learning how to walk. We only used it when necessary, like busy (dangerous) parking lots like Wal-mart. The disability is a very high price to pay for a good parking spot.
We were VERY glad to park in normal parking spots when she got stronger!
ive used teh scooter @ walmart @ times i couldnt walk in a straight line for more than 30 feet. and YES i was sober too :thumb: people gave me crap. including store MGMT/employees. i said fine. ill get up and walk, i made it 25 feet and stumbled and fell. mgr was like dude you okay?, im like Whiskey tango Foxtrot. have i been trying to tell you. id like to see your boss. ( him) hes kind of busy, ( me) he, and this store is going to be kind of broke, unless you get him IMMEDIATELY, they offer, this item, free,or greatly reduced as an im sorry moment. ala CMA, ( cover my ass), im like no. ill pay for it, i wasnt angling for anythign free. i just want yall to be a bit more understanding. these scoooters to me are not well any count. if i need ot buy somethign they cant haul too much. i can understand ppl using them for bullshit reasons. just try to be a bit more understanding Eh?
Couple of thoughts.
I would expect an abundance of "D-bay" spaces (as we call 'em here) at a Dr office, clinic or Hospital but no matter how many, last person + 1 looses out. Tough but something you have to learn to live with.
People get very possesive about "their" space. I was with a (now deceased)friend about 4 years back and he parked in a D-bay at a hypermarket in France, a passer-bye seeing his Brit registration plate launched into a fit of arm waving and shouting despite the fact that there were five or six other D-bays vacant. My friend politely pointed to his Blue badge and the EEC flag in the corner (it's a transeuropean scheme) but nothing with going to settle the guy down, well nothing until his Mrs intervened!
The last thing most of us want is a Blue badge (or whatever) even if from time to time we have a little grumble about parking! I don't know the rules elswhere but here there are designated bays plus being able to park anywhere WITHOUT causing obstruction - a minority of the badge holders get the rest a very bad press by forgeting the last three words.
Quote from: Cal Price on February 06, 2011, 04:51:29 AM
Couple of thoughts.
I would expect an abundance of "D-bay" spaces (as we call 'em here) at a Dr office, clinic or Hospital but no matter how many, last person + 1 looses out. Tough but something you have to learn to live with.
People get very possesive about "their" space. I was with a (now deceased)friend about 4 years back and he parked in a D-bay at a hypermarket in France, a passer-bye seeing his Brit registration plate launched into a fit of arm waving and shouting despite the fact that there were five or six other D-bays vacant. My friend politely pointed to his Blue badge and the EEC flag in the corner (it's a transeuropean scheme) but nothing with going to settle the guy down, well nothing until his Mrs intervened!
The last thing most of us want is a Blue badge (or whatever) even if from time to time we have a little grumble about parking! I don't know the rules elswhere but here there are designated bays plus being able to park anywhere WITHOUT causing obstruction - a minority of the badge holders get the rest a very bad press by forgeting the last three words.
i do love the NON disabled parking in teh handicapped spot. line is " ill only be a minute" my ass. i was taking mom home from a doc appointment 2 mos before her death. ( in my crown vic, had hte hangtag in car for HER. ( kept in glove box), well at market, girl pulls into spot. not disabled, no placard. im like WTF? shes like put off by my grumbles, and like WTF dude ill only be here a minute, , i said cops will be also. and i pulled in behind her and took my time letting mom out of car. with walker, and whatever else needed. her minute turned into 25. no other space available exceptohhh 45 slots away.
Yes Yama that must be maddening, the parking wardens etc are pretty hot on it here.
One of the things I find a bit weird is that the shopping malls / supermarkets etc seem to have more and more categories of "special" parking that grows by the day - Not just D-bays but spaces for mums with kids, pregnant women, old codgers like me, I can't be bothered to read all the categories or try to comprehend the colour codes. I sometimes wonder where it will end.....................................
Quote from: ohgood on February 05, 2011, 07:44:40 AM
also, folks with disabled tags have all kinds of reasons. just because maw runs in or hops or jogs, she may have a 7year old that is handicapped and crying hef eyes out at home because of pain. prescritpions get lost nad out of date , but usually when a kid really needs it.
If they can jog in the extra 10 spaces isn't going to slow them down even a minute... I'm not talking about a person with metal tags . I'm talking about the ones that look 3-4 spaces past the handicapped spot and decide to whip right into them and pull the placard out (or the ones that borrow Mom/dads car but have nothing wrong with them ) -often to run in to get crap like cigs or other BS. Hell with the bigger fines...give them a good limp or something to make them legit...
I just hate that kind of abuse...
Anyway....
Feeling better today Mary?
Quote from: madjak30 on February 05, 2011, 07:05:45 PM
Yup, assault with a weapon...that's what she needs...wouldn't affect her job at all... :cookoo:
Later.
Whatever dude...I'm just saying the last thing I would be looking to defend myself with is my $300 helmet. :flipoff:
Why not carry a tazer, or pepper spray...maybe knife him...he deserved it after all... :icon_eek:
I'm just saying that using force would have made her just as wrong as he was to get in her face like that...and yes, my first reaction was to club the guy as well...but we can't just resort to violence to "fix" the situation, sometimes it is better to take the moral high ground and either ignore him or walk away...and with Mary's heart condition, stay calm while doing it...not easy to do, I think she did the best thing in the situation...but I am surprised that no one got the guy to bugger off...plus being security personel, an assault charge may have an effect on her job...
Later.
I still feel pretty lousy today. Not sure if it is the anti-biotics in conjunction with everything else but all I want to do today is lay in bed. My heart rate just laying in bed is 130 which is uncomfortable when trying to rest. Everytime I close my eyes I feel like I'm in an Eminem concert with the base vibrating my whole body.I haven't really eaten either to much work to get up to the fridge ATM. But, I do have 6in left of an Itallain BMT sub NOM NOM!
Yeah, Mad your right no matter how much I wanted to jack that dude up with my helmet. I knew better even though I only work a small bit it would have been fun explaining it to the dept of Agriculture. I know I can't even make sense of that ,Any charges of violence on my record could very well cost me my class "D" license. Which is funny because if that guy would have pulled that while in uniform it would have been a whole different story. I could have used equal or less force on him and not even have thought twice.
Mary
Hope you feel better. Rest and heal, and I'll pray for healing for you.
Quote from: scratch on February 06, 2011, 03:02:05 PM
Hope you feel better. Rest and heal, and I'll pray for healing for you.
Agreed as will i. mary i do this on a regular basis for you. youve got enough going on in your life. id say you have lil time to pray for good health, so ill take some of that burden off your shoulders :angel: :thumb:
My goodness I feel awful today! I can't get my HR to slow down. Ugh, I have class in the morning and only my bike has the registration for school. Due to costs so yeah even though I don't particularly feel like it I'll be on Flick. Gonna have to go to the Dr. office probably tomorrow. After this though I doubt I will even park in the handicapped spot because I don't think I could handle again what I went through. It still amazes me how little it takes these days to throw me out of wack!
Mary
Heh ive got a few days off i think ( am swelled up like the pillsbury doughboy, with bill clintons swelled up face lol. so, ill relax a lil bit, but will pray that all goes well with you. i would think youd be able to add the other car fairly easily?, maybe im wrong and its a convoluted mess. :dunno_white: anyways will pray that things work out for you
Back in '90 I permanently injured my back, which kept me from pursuing many of the things in life I enjoyed, motorcycling being one of them. Left me more than a tad depressed.
My doc was the proactive sort, always checking in on every aspect of my recovery. He explained that while I might have pain walking long distances, motorcycling was not necessarily contraindicated. I gave it a try, and the only bad aspect was lack of lower back support. He wrote up some magic-Doctor-stuff, and the disability insurance paid to have my moto seat re-sculpted. Swinging my leg over was still an exercise in patience and forethought, but riding was magic!
Because walking any distance was still an issue, he offered to facilitate me getting a handicapped tag for the moto. In the end I didn't take him up on it, precisely because I feared reactions along the lines of the one the OP got. Most folks, even riders, don't think that "truly handicapped" people can ride. I didn't want to find my moto tipped (which I was not capable of remedying at the time), and instead chose the discomfort of walking the extra distance (or not stopping at all if I couldn't find a space that was close enough).
Well, I'm sure most of you know that I didn't get to avoid the hospital. I don't know if it was my heart already being cranky or if it was just the infection but it found its way to my heart and I got a life flight ride to the big hospital downtown because my enzyme levels were 12xs what they should have been. They did an emergency heart cath and cleaned out some of the infection but I'm gonna be weak for while. I did do a short ride on Flick yesterday but could only get one errand done needed some cooler gloves.But, walking around the dealership started having a hard time walking straight and realized was probably a good idea to go home and rest.
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on February 04, 2011, 09:34:48 PM
I have stage three heart failure for starters, Crohn's disease, three knee surgeries, two herniated disc in my back, an implanted defibrillator, ATM also have a three inch hole in my chest, a picc line in my right arm, and can't walk more than 100ft without getting short of breath.
But, it doesn't really matter does it? My doctor filled out the appropriate paperwork I got the appropriate tag from the DMV. I feel that I should not have to "prove" I'm disabled to every jerkwad that thinks otherwise. If I'm breaking the law call a LEO and let him do his job otherwise STFU and leave me alone!
Mary
Sorry to hear that mary, hope its better now.
n the handicapped placard, I also am contemplating getting one for my wife's car, kiddo's autism sometimes neccesitates it, they also would give us "deaf child area" for our house even though he can hear. However he doesn't understand and hence the deaf child placard is appropriate and we would get it.
Cool.
Buddha.
Oh handicapped in NC atleast isn't for wheel chair access type only. You can get one if like in my sons case when he's fixated on something, if you park away from the place we're going to, he will get out of the car and dart across. Not wheel chair only. Deaf or mentally retarded also gets the same privilege.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on February 20, 2011, 03:35:54 PM
Oh handicapped in NC atleast isn't for wheel chair access type only. You can get one if like in my sons case when he's fixated on something, if you park away from the place we're going to, he will get out of the car and dart across. Not wheel chair only. Deaf or mentally retarded also gets the same privilege.
Cool.
Buddha.
god forbid buddha. if other driver in lot isnt paying attention if this were to happen
With handicapped parking you dont usually have to cross lanes of traffic to get to the "target" he has fixated upon. And yesterday he had a seizure, his first, scared the living daylights out of us. They spent the whole day @ the hospital, the thing was, they had him in there for a 24 hour test on the 10/11th of feb, and sent us home saying he likely doesn't have any seizures.
But there was no denying it yesterday, classic epileptic type seizure, anyway we're now going to treat him for that, atleast now we know, we suspected it was happening, but now we're sure.
Cool.
Buddha.
Sorry to hear that I'll have the little "buddha" in my prayers. Illness in anyone sucks to the max!
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on February 22, 2011, 12:25:18 PM
Sorry to hear that I'll have the little "buddha" in my prayers. Illness in anyone sucks to the max!
Mary
Little buddha ... he he. When he was younger he used to resemble yoda. As much as any human child can.
Cool.
Buddha.