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Who else needs case guards?

Started by wladziu, November 21, 2008, 10:58:59 AM

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wladziu

I'm trying to urge Buddha into making more case guards.  Who else wants them?  Come on... don't be cheap!  Your GS will love you for it!

The Buddha

OK Well ... here is the details - wladziu doesn't know cos I didn't tell him ...
2 point - 60 bucks.
3 point - add 20 more.
Sliders add 20 more.

The sliders and the 3 point will have to bolt to the 2 point, so cant buy just those ... well you can, but it will not have anything to fit to.

These will fit all years of GS 89-09.

And there is no pics. These have not been made in the form I am thinking. Not just me, no one has made them. And I cannot make 1 get pics and then get orders. I have to make ~20. If they dont work, I will send back all the $.

I'd like a 20 set order prepaid before I can get anything on them. However they have the potential to get done quite rapidly once its started.

I have made case guards before - just not this kind. And several dozen satisfied customers ... and atleast one who's not (crash - you still here ) he had it break and I was going to fix it ... but my life didn't let me.
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wladziu

Yes! 

These will come powdercoated and will include those long mounting bolts.




Right?

The Buddha

Powdercoat - yes.
Thanks for reminding me about bolts but yes I have them.
In fact I have a box with ~50 sitting in my garage right now. Just right for 25 or so.
More can be bought of course ... but I had to buy a 100 set 2-3 years ago and it cost me 1000 bucks + ... if I remember.
So I make a batch of 25 this time, and I will have to do it in lots of 50 after that else I'd be stuck with several 100 worth of bolts.
There were some very very good pics that someone took while installing it ... just wait I'll put up the link.
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The Buddha

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=10522.40

That is the link but the beautiful pics rema1000 put are not showing. These were the old type though ... the new ones will not be like this.
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wladziu

Bear in mind, folks, the SW-Motech 3-pointers are $135 (before shipping). 
The 2-pointers break just from frame stress (as mine were). 


This is a great way to get a great part, at a decent price. 


Join the "I bought stuff from Buddha" club!

Bluesmudge

Will these work on  faired F models and would it look incredibly ugly under/next to the fairing? I'm moderately interested but I think I'm just going to go with some generic sliders.

wladziu

Depends what you think is ugly.  Plastic or an unbusted engine. 

ohgood

Quote from: Bluesmudge on November 21, 2008, 04:07:09 PM
Will these work on  faired F models and would it look incredibly ugly under/next to the fairing? I'm moderately interested but I think I'm just going to go with some generic sliders.

sliders are over rated. sure, they -might- save your plastics, -might- save your bars, but will definitely bust off when they -need- to save your engine.

case guards are the best route.


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

The Buddha

Bluesmudge: 04+ yes - 89-09 GS it should work. My old design didn't work on the 04+, but in my defense I made them in 03  :laugh: Ugly ... I'd say yes ... however yea the alternative is just as ugly ... Now there may be people who'd say it dont look ugly ... OK you consider a enduro bike's skid plate ugly ? ... what about front grille peices on SUV's ... if those look good to you, then maybe these aren't ugly.

Ohgood - I wont make sliders that fit to the frame or require holes in the fairing. These sliders will fit on the case guards. They also will be fairly short. Remember they are quite low, so they's scrape if they're long. However sliding off the road into dirt ... is better than catching the road and flipping if you lay it down at speed. I hope they wont break off in light crashes. I'll prolly make them fairly short ... slide is the name of the game.

Either way ... there is about so much you can do and save your motor ... you can exceed any safety feature if you exceed it far enough.

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wladziu

Sounds great, Buddha!  I stand fully corrected on the matter of F-model fitment! 
Man, we gotta see those pictures, to really get a good idea of what these are like!  I think the F-model guys are definitely more worried about the aesthetics of these, besides the fitment issue.  So, it'd be great to see a picture of that model with your guards on it, if at all possible.

If you've made something that fits both the naked and faired version, that sounds pretty impressive. 

Malatesta

Quote from: wladziu on November 23, 2008, 11:40:02 AM
Sounds great, Buddha!  I stand fully corrected on the matter of F-model fitment! 
Man, we gotta see those pictures, to really get a good idea of what these are like!  I think the F-model guys are definitely more worried about the aesthetics of these, besides the fitment issue.  So, it'd be great to see a picture of that model with your guards on it, if at all possible.

If you've made something that fits both the naked and faired version, that sounds pretty impressive. 

+1

I'm interested and have a 500f.
"The past is never quite how you remember, the future's promise may not be fulfilled. Live for the present. The ruins fall around us as we speak."

wladziu


The Buddha

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I cant make just one. That is the whole problem. It would be great if I could, it'll solve so many problems. 20 or so for prepaid. I can do this on a shoe string, mainly because I dont have a lot of capital output. I dont want to make a bunch and sell them for 2X what I have in them. Why would I be doing it on gstwin ... I'll just go on ebay and sell em then.

The whole I'm interested etc etc is all fine, but I cant make them based on interest. I make them and I cant run after the Intersted ones for the $. I can only make them basically on a "pay and wait" ... and if it doesn't get made, I'll refund. If it doesn't fit, I'll refund ... that's the best I can do.

OK all the interested ones can post here and say interest etc. Then once we have the critical number, pay and I'll start cranking them out. That way you are not out of $ for too long before you get these.

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Malatesta

lol, fair enough.

Gimme till the end of the week and I'll commit with money  :icon_mrgreen:
"The past is never quite how you remember, the future's promise may not be fulfilled. Live for the present. The ruins fall around us as we speak."

The Buddha

End of the week ... man, wait till you get a few more interested people before going to that stage.
Anyway, I am working on the bars now, though the 2 are possibly doable side by side.
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Bluesmudge

Do you think you could post a drawing or something just so we get a better idea of what they would look like? I'm looking at my faired 2006 and I don't see how its going to work. I also don't get what the sliders would be. You putting a layer of plastic on the outside or what?
So even just a pencil sketch would be fine to get an idea.

5thAve

+1 on the pencil sketch. 
Consider me interested 'cause the price is right.

also, I'm curious;  Buddha what is your "day job" 'cause you seem to be on line here, like, always. How many GSes do you have in your possession at any one time? I try to keep track from your posts but sometimes it seems like you must have a barn full of 'em. You're always trading and swapping bits and pieces. 

Anyway,  good on ya.
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The Buddha

Bluesmudge:- I know ... that's why I have had this idea and never made the item. 4+ years ... sorry man, no way to do justice in anything other than metal, and no way to make it in metal and make just 1.

However ... it will work and it will fit and it will really protect ... all I can not say at this point is ... how ugly ... I dunno ... but sooner or later y'all gonna have to take this leap of faith ... It wont quite look any uglier than the usual case guards though. The sliders will be an add on ... you could put it on at a later time as well ... its just to get it to slide instead of catch and trip if you lay down at speed ...

5thave:- Heck I dont even have a running GS I can do anything on really. And I am a working class grunt that works a computer desk job ... AKA monitoring GSTwin is my day job ...  :icon_mrgreen: And I swear ... I ave not been on here from a good 4:30 pm through 10:30 pm EST today. Thank the freaking 90 mile 1 way commute.

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wladziu

#19
Well, I'm buying one, regardless.  Wish I had the capital to fund the whole thing myself, then sell then on my own. 
If anyone who's reading this has the old two-point bars, chances are they're busted at the flanges already, like mine were.  This guy only spends a short while on these projects, and then moves on to something else.  So, if you miss the chance to buy these, and then find out your current bars are busted....
As far as a drawing, I'm pretty sure he's got something like this in mind:



Forgive my retarded artistry, but I'm pretty sure that the section pointing toward the top left just slides underneath the factory fairing and bolts onto the usual place.  If I'm correct, then the slider he's mentioning can be added at the center point, where the tubing meets.  And, if I'm correct, the tubing to the right (that goes to the rear, toward the shifter) bolts to the other piece (not welded), giving scalability.  Since it's bolted together at that point, sliders can be added to (probably) one of the bolts that are used, eliminating the need for further holes drilled in the assembly that might weaken it. 
There could be a few variations to this design, but the overall effect is pretty apparent.  Fitment with the factory fairing doesn't seem to be a problem, as long as the bends are done well and the best tubing size is used.  It doesn't look very ugly to me, but to each his own. 

Buddha, correct me if I'm wrong.  And, will these be from chomoly or schedule 40? 
I'm interested in seeing how you will bolt the pieces together.  Are you just flattening the end of the tube, or are you making sort of a clamp?  You said you've been thinking of this design for 4+ years, so I'm sure you've got something pretty nice in store.  Personally, I love the aesthetics of those scalable roll cages like Poison Spider (I believe) offers, with those clamps that they use.  I'm hoping that's something you're using.  Would look kind of clunky, though, so I really don't care that much. 



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