Next mod I'm working on for the ole GS is digital gauges. I have searched, and read many threads about veypors and vapors, but have yet to come across a direct comparison between the two. If there are people out there with either would you mind posting reviews here so we can all compare them apples to apples in one place?

I'm debating whether or not to do away with the double buckets and use new digi gauges alone (fabbing a mount), because I don't want both.  Wondering if that would be practical, (obviously neverminding mileage tracking).

Thanks, any insights greatly appreciated. 

Aren't they the same thing? I just assumed the people who wrote "vapor" (a word in english) meant "Veypor" (a brand name). Am I wrong? 

Veypor is one manufacturer, Trailtech is another.  Trailtech makes the Vapor.  Just to confuse everyone.

I have the Vapor on my DR-Z250, since it didn't come with gauges.  It works well; I have the tach, speedo, clock, and outside temp view, and it has odometer and tripmeter functionalities.  It was simple to set up and the instructions were good.  If you have to go aftermarket, it's a good piece.  If you can avoid going aftermarket, I always find that works better.   

 
So now I know!


But if a motorcyclist needs an outside temperature gauge they're probably wearing too much leather! 

Thanks! I guess factory is ideal, but my PO dropped the bike.  The gauges still work,  but the black plastic part of the cluster bucket is cracked in a few spots. He made a nice bracket to go over and around it to conceal it, but it still bothers me. I figure rather than paying for new/used factory cluster, why not get with the times and go digital, as opposed to the goofy look with all three.

I have a veypor as opposed to the trail tech vapor.

From what I understand the veypor was first to use the name and unsuccessfully sued trail tech when they called theirs a "vapor"

Honestly I like the looks of trailtech's product a little better but I think the Veypor does a lot more for the money.

Things the Veypor does:

Tachometer
Speedometer
Odometer (Trip and permanent)
Gear indicator
Fuel gauge
MPG
Dist. until empty
Shift light (speed or RPM)
weather proof
Braking g force
Acceleration g force
0-60 acceleration time
1/4 mile time
60-0 braking distance/time
Data recording
Graphical display on the unit
ability to download performance graph data to a pc
optional IR/magnetic sensors for lap timing

Veypor does not have:

engine temp sensor
oil pressure
turn signal indication
neutral light
high beam light
or a freaking clock  

now we just need side to side comparison pics of them installed and this can go to the wiki.

here are a couple of pics of my veypor.

Here's my veypor installed. I had it on a thin piece of aluminum screwed to the top of the handlebar clamps for a while but didn't like it there. It is in much better view while driving now. all I need to do is move my indicator lights to the plate. But, I bought some GSXR front end parts so it is probably going to change again down the road.

Quote from: dohabee on September 30, 2009, 01:04:20 PM

Veypor does not have:

engine temp sensor
oil pressure
turn signal indication
neutral light
high beam light
or a freaking clock  

Does the (trailtech) Vapor have those features?

Quote from: bmbass on September 30, 2009, 11:57:15 AMbut the black plastic part of the cluster bucket is cracked in a few spots.

IMO, go to a junkyard or find the bucket from someone here for a few bucks.  Aftermarket speedos and tachs involve some ducking around with magnets and spade connectors, and Suzuki has already done the work for you.  But that's me, and I'm lazy.

Quote from: bmbass on September 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Does the (trailtech) Vapor have those features?

It has an engine temp sensor and a freaking clock.  If you get the dashboard, it has turn signal indicators, oil pressure light, and high beam light.

I have the aluminum protector instead, though, as it's a dualsport and is going to get bashed around.


Dashboard, from their site:

Anybody have pics of one mounted on a GS

i like my acewell, but it is a bit small.

Trailtech is amazing though. They sent me a magnetic rotor bolt for free so i could run my Acewell speedometer   

Quote from: bmbass on September 30, 2009, 11:57:15 AM
Thanks! I guess factory is ideal, but my PO dropped the bike.  The gauges still work,  but the black plastic part of the cluster bucket is cracked in a few spots. He made a nice bracket to go over and around it to conceal it, but it still bothers me. I figure rather than paying for new/used factory cluster, why not get with the times and go digital, as opposed to the goofy look with all three.

You're being bothered by a crack you can't even see... As I advised someone else recently, you can simply glass/bondo the gauge bucket - it's not a structural part. The gauges are the expensive part of the thing - you can get a brand new (or perfectly intact used) gauge bucket for $$cheap - and yet you describe the concealing bracket as nice, not as a cheesy piece of crap - but still the invisible, concealed cracks in a non-structural part of the bike bug you and you want to pee away hundreds of dollars to tack on a digital cluster. Whatever...

Quote from: DoD#i on October 02, 2009, 07:12:40 AM

Quote from: bmbass on September 30, 2009, 11:57:15 AM
Thanks! I guess factory is ideal, but my PO dropped the bike.  The gauges still work,  but the black plastic part of the cluster bucket is cracked in a few spots. He made a nice bracket to go over and around it to conceal it, but it still bothers me. I figure rather than paying for new/used factory cluster, why not get with the times and go digital, as opposed to the goofy look with all three.

You're being bothered by a crack you can't even see... As I advised someone else recently, you can simply glass/bondo the gauge bucket - it's not a structural part. The gauges are the expensive part of the thing - you can get a brand new (or perfectly intact used) gauge bucket for $$cheap - and yet you describe the concealing bracket as nice, not as a cheesy piece of crap - but still the invisible, concealed cracks in a non-structural part of the bike bug you and you want to pee away hundreds of dollars to tack on a digital cluster. Whatever...

#1: If I can't even see the crack, then how would I have known it was there...
#2: Im not going to fiberglass or bondo a gauge bucket. I would rather spend the money and make it look nice, not waste effort and ghetto it up
#3: I don't feel like searching for a used bucket
#4: If I have hundreds of dollars to "pee away" on a nice digital cluster, what's it to you? Last time I checked it was my bike.
#5: Upgrading an analog gauge cluster that is 10 years old is not "peeing away" anything imo.

Last and certainly not least,
#6: This thread was intended to provide research on the two gauges in the topic, the Vapor and the Veypor. (Not once did I ask, what are the alternatives to buying a new gauge?) I did not ask for your opinion from the f%$king peanut gallery as to whether I should upgrade or not, because that has already been decided. 

Thanks to all who have helped. Still looking for Vaypors on GSs

Vapor not-on-a-GS.  But it gives the idea.




The pic makes the non-used LCD bits appear more than they do in real life.  It's an artifact - the gauge is very clean, without those 'ghosts.'  The current display is set to clock, Trip A (there's also an odometer), outside temp (there's a cylinder head temp for oil/air-cooled bikes, and a coolant temp for water-cooled), tach (about 1700 at idle), and MPH speedo.  This is using the aluminum dash, which is quite sturdy.

If you want to pee your money, this is a good way.   

Here's pictures of a Vapor on a GS. You've already see pictures of Veypors on a GS in this thread...

By the way, if you don't want opinions "from the f%$king peanut gallery" then I suggest you find a different internet.  You must be new at this    You're going to get opinions from whoever wants to post them up whether you ask for them or not.  Keep fighting the good fight.

Hey didn't want to create a hole new thread just to ask a simple question but would the Vapor/Striker/Vector Indicator Dashboard ( http://www.trailtech.net/022-PDA.html ) work on a 2007 GS500F?

vapor with dash kit mounted on e- headlight


when I went to f headlight:




likes: clock is used a lot, digital speedo, easy set up, dash kit is nice
not so good is the temp readings.  most time it just says 75f.  Maybe I didn't adjust them right. I don't care though, I just ignore it.
my rpm is bouncy because I did the wrap around the spark plug wire method.  If I buy the resistor wire and connect to coil, it should be accurate.  It has settable redline limit lights too.
It does have a odometer.  you can set it to match what you left off on your old gauge but you have to search the web for it.  It's kept kinda secret because I guess some laws prohibit odometer modifying. I just left mine on zero and started over. I have my old gauge to add miles together if I ever needed.

overall the rpm has been close enough and the speedo is smooth and seems accurate.  I'm happy with mine