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Started by weedahoe, April 20, 2013, 09:37:12 PM

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weedahoe

Will sell only as a package. These are 37mm clip ons in excellent condition. There is also a custom top plate that I used a milling machine to mill down the OEM handlebar mounts, filled in the bolt holes, sanded smooth, primered, painted, clear coated and cut/buffed/polished

$100 shipped

Clip ons - http://sdrv.ms/YdnlN8
Top plate - http://sdrv.ms/Z7Mbgy

[EDIT] - If anyone can tell me the major differences is specs or CAD prints on how these may not be "Vortex", I will give them to that person.
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

weedahoe

Still for sale.

For those who are not aware, I have over 15 hours in labor in the top plate. There is around $50 in materials for primer, paint, and clear coating of the top plate. There are pics in the links above. Dont try to blow me wanting 50% off. I dont have the time nor the patience for it.

You wanna go rent shop time for a milling machine? Go for it. You wanna $3 rattle can bomb your pieces? Go for it. I dont and wont do it.
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

Slack

Don't advertise them as $140 Vortex brand when they are only $50 ebay brand and there wouldn't have been any confusion!   :thumb:
Quote from: MeeLee on June 07, 2015, 07:14:25 PM
Be aware, this is not very wise advise!

weedahoe

#3
Maybe you should become slightly more educated. Better yet, please define "vortex" brand. Do you know where they buy theirs from? Buying from overseas and rebranding with a different name doesnt change who made them or their origination

Better yet, please compare these "vortex" bars and tell me the difference

https://www.vortexracing.com/shop/product/18674/711/17/83/
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/71/982/6288/ITEM/Vortex-Clip-On-Road-Race-Bars.aspx

No one lied. to you or misled you. You just didnt look at pics, assumed and shot off a PM without looking, comparing and/or verifying. The pics the other person posted from China are not the same bars I have. But you didnt know that because you never looked. Everything is cheaper to buy from China. Hell, I buy all kinds of things from overseas and resell them here. It called cutting out the middle man. You wanting to not buy China made bars for less when all "vortex" did was buy from China and mark them up and resell to you is a great idea.

Enlighten me on the difference in the bars please. Both are 7/8 aluminum hollow bars. Both have hard plastic end caps. Both are 37mm. Both mount on the forks. Both use the same hardware to mount and secure. Both are the same length and dimensions. So help me understand what differences you think there are between them?
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

weedahoe

here is a stock pic of "Vortex" and here is a pic of what Im selling. Can anyone give detailed differences?


2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

Bluesmudge

In this case Slack is right. They are not Vortex brand and there is a difference. I have a set like you are selling. They are nice but not as nice as vortex. A lot of times the brand name makes a difference even if both products are made in china.

I like what you have done  with the top plate. The problem Slack and I have is that you are misrepresenting what you are selling. If I purchased your set I would have been very disappointed to find out it was a different product, even if they accomplish the same thing and are 80% the same.

weedahoe

I'm curious as to to why you say they are not as nice when they are the same. Post pics of yours please. Same bars and end caps right? Mounted the same right? Same offset too right? So I'm confused on how they are different?
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

Bluesmudge

#7
Here is a pic of mine

I don't know if yours are the same but the build quality on mine didn't seem that great. Whatever metal is used for the allen bolts was very soft and cheap so I had to replace them. The inner bar diameter was smaller than standard bars so it is impossible to use normal bar-ends (maybe that is normal for clip-ons?). The clips themselves seemed nice but just not as well machined/finished as vortex racing clip-ons that I have seen on other people's bikes. I am not saying they are a bad product, I am saying they are not manufactured by Vortex Racing.

weedahoe

All of them are made from aluminum. That in itself as we all know is a a soft metal. Never at any time did I have an issue with these. I replaced them only because I wanted to lift my front end back up due to all of the other work on it I had going on. Yes the bars inside diameter is smaller as is normal for these type bars. However, in my 89 clip ons I have "Vortex" 7/8" bars because the OEM 89 bars were too short. But even on those after market bars I have end bar weights so they can be used.

Slack got upset because they arent Vortex and being honest after looking at what they sale and what I have, there is no difference. Again, same degree offset, same metal, same bar size and length, same mounting, ect. You can see they are the same. Did Vortex make design changes throughout their production period? I have no idea.

Look at the ones you posted on your bike and you say they are Vortex but even those are slightly different than the Vortex that are listed on their site. So do YOU have authentic "Vortex"? How do you know? How do we know? Do you/we really care? They work right?

2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

Slack

Quote from: weedahoe on April 22, 2013, 08:57:12 PM
Slack got upset because they arent Vortex and being honest after looking at what they sale and what I have, there is no difference.


Actually, as I stated in my PM I'm not upset.  Your the only one upset; you've made that obvious by your rude pm, alluding to a supposed alcohol issue (out of left field), and taking cheap shots at my bike. 
Be that as it may and despite what you say there is a difference of nearly $100 is purchase price between what your actually selling and what you claim to be selling.  That's all I've said and that's the only reason I'm not buying them from you.  I'm sure your clip ons work just as well as authentic Vortex.  And Blue said that the screws were soft.  I sure hope you don't think the screws are aluminum too.
Quote from: MeeLee on June 07, 2015, 07:14:25 PM
Be aware, this is not very wise advise!

john

So what exactly are you all fighting about here? 

Chinese outsourcing? 

If they are not vortex then they are not Vortex.  There is an implied value that you can sue them into oblivion if there is a failure due to a manufacturing defect and crash -even though they may be sourced from some Chinese factory.  If they are not vortex, then there is an implied lack of value and no product liability safety net.

I would call them "exactly like Vortex but not."

We are becoming more savvy sourcers ourselves.  Look at me, I sourced flashlights to give away directly out of China.  They do not have the "name," but are clearly the same as ones with brand name.  That is being a smart shopper.  But if the items are no name, there should be full disclosure.
There is more to this site than a message board.  Check out http://www.gstwin.com

Fear the banana hammer!

john

The person that settles this fight wins a super cool flashlight.

I am not sure how you will do it, but if in my judgement it makes this Buddha Loves You fest stop you will win.
There is more to this site than a message board.  Check out http://www.gstwin.com

Fear the banana hammer!

codajastal

The law states you cannot call something a "insert name brand here" unless it came from "insert name brand here"
It does not matter if they came from the same factory or not. If the item was not stamped "insert name brand here"  by the company that sells the item YOU as an re-seller cannot claim they are  "insert name brand here
End of discussion oh and thats my .02c
I am not interested in anything you have to say
Don't bother talking to me, I will not answer you

wayne242

Quote from: john on April 22, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
So what exactly are you all fighting about here? 
"

We are becoming more savvy sourcers ourselves.  Look at me, I sourced flashlights to give away directly out of China.  They do not have the "name," but are clearly the same as ones with brand name.  That is being a smart shopper.  But if the items are no name, there should be full disclosure.

That's normally because those company's paid a Chinese factory to produce the're product at a cheaper cost to them(even greed as a negative side). Then those said Chinese individuals copy the patent and re-produce the said name brand product under no name or random name.

On topic, just call them "similar to vortex" and clean this topic up. No point in having a big ego here, give an apology for wording it wrong.. There is no need to turn this SMALL misinformation into a huge pissing contest and becoming enemy's/disliking each other.... It makes every one involved look bad.

my 3 cents.

2006 GS 500 F

john

And that's the problem.  These Chinese factories just keep making the parts and they become grey market parts.  Like I said, they are the same (usually), but carry no implied extra value.  I can see both sides of the argument.  But honestly, $100 for those parts is not a bad deal anyway.  You get a real custom look pretty cheap.

I would like weed to edit his posting.  But he is a big boy and a great help here.  He can do what he wants on this one. 
There is more to this site than a message board.  Check out http://www.gstwin.com

Fear the banana hammer!

SAFE-T

#15
Yup ~ they are either a Vortex product or something else.


SAFE-T

#16
I once had a set of Tomahawk tires that used a Dunlop carcass with a rubber compound bought from Dunlop, but Tomahawk could never have marketed it as a Dunlop.

FYI ~ Tomahawk said their rubber compound was based on Dunlop's 208 tire, and they put on a thicker layer (?) for their sport-touring version. It was supposed to be a little heavier because of that, but I got nearly 25,000 km out of the rear tire so I considered that a darn good tradeoff.

weedahoe

As I said earlier as well and as John does, I buy a lot of things from overseas and resell. The screws are the mounts are not aluminum. They are stainless. If you want to argue about $100 difference because they do not have "VORTEX" milled into them then I can easily take a CAD table and put whatever name in them you want. At the end of the day, they are still the same offset, same length bars, same diameter, same metal material, ect.

Slack, the tone in your PM was VERY harsh. That was why I refunded your payment. I didnt/dont need the money. That was the leas of my concern. I honestly didnt want to deal with the situation as a whole if you couldnt understand they are the same thing "Vortex" sells.

As of right now I still havent seen anyone descriptively specify the "difference" and I even gave links and pictures. So if all the difference is that they at some point started to engrave their name on a set of overseas manufactured bars to make them "theirs" and jacked the price by $100, is they really worth it or justified?
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

weedahoe

BTW, I edited the first post. Please read (all of) it  :cheers:
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

Badot

#19
Quote from: weedahoe on April 20, 2013, 09:37:12 PM[EDIT] - If anyone can tell me the major differences is specs or CAD prints on how these may not be "Vortex", I will give them to that person.

The clamp screws for the purportedly non-vortex bars will impact and damage the forks in the event too long a screw is used, as well as not clamp the bar properly upon impaction. Look at the side/angle the screws go in at. Also, the vortex fork clamps have ridging on the inside and outside to help prevent slippage and strengthen the highest stress areas, respectively.

But I don't want 'em. And of course there's no way to tell it's not some old model vortex or something.

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