The 89-00 floats drift high - I'll bet one of em has drifted upward. Somehow that makes for more sneezing than if both did. If both drift high, it just weak and smells very much of gas.
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Quote from: The Buddha on April 24, 2020, 06:18:38 AM
The 89-00 floats drift high - I'll bet one of em has drifted upward. Somehow that makes for more sneezing than if both did. If both drift high, it just weak and smells very much of gas.
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ok, well the gas level raised about to the floatchamber seal, might be a lil on the too much side, ill try to lower it a bit

Quote from: Meukowi on April 24, 2020, 06:43:21 AM

Quote from: The Buddha on April 24, 2020, 06:18:38 AM
The 89-00 floats drift high - I'll bet one of em has drifted upward. Somehow that makes for more sneezing than if both did. If both drift high, it just weak and smells very much of gas.
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ok, well the gas level raised about to the floatchamber seal, might be a lil on the too much side, ill try to lower it a bit

To the gasket level is the correct level - cant me more than 1-2mm under that. Maybe you started 1-2mm under and jetting was perfect then all across.
I tend to keep them a shade under the gasket face.
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ok, so i pulled up carbs and fked one floatbowl bolt right away, after few strong words got it open, turned out that my new needle seat o rings were both stripped out and the seat were not sealing properly, on both actually. Hope that was the reason on the bad run, took some beer so cant go for a ride tday 😄.

Was settling it up again but didnt find a place for one of the hoses that comes from the upper part of carb, where the carbs joins.

Quote from: Meukowi on April 24, 2020, 09:26:34 AM
ok, so i pulled up carbs and fked one floatbowl bolt right away, after few strong words got it open, turned out that my new needle seat o rings were both stripped out and the seat were not sealing properly, on both actually. Hope that was the reason on the bad run, took some beer so cant go for a ride tday 😄.

Was settling it up again but didnt find a place for one of the hoses that comes from the upper part of carb, where the carbs joins.

Rear upper part of the carbs ? Off a T fitting ? - That goes nowhere - like into the air - it is to take in air as fuel leaves the bowl and to toss out fuel off the carb if you drop the bike - BTW don't send it toward the engine or some like that. Just back and away is fine.
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ok, rebuilded & sealed, float height adjusted to gasket. problem still occurs, brooooms to 8,8-9k and bogs there. Waiting for those 137,5 jets to try

Man this still sounds rich - can you drop to the next smaller jet you got - benchmark it the same way - but if you have a 130 or 132 from those same DJ clowns - try that.

BTW did I tell you about the time I called DJ ?
This was 2002/2003 - I was simply jetting+Kitting 100+ GS'es a year on this forum as well as the old version of this forum, thoroughly trashing DJ all the way.
Then one of my purchases a nighthawk 650 turned out to have a DJ kit in it and I was having some problems.
I call them to see what their next up size was - and when I told him my name - they went icy.

Then 2 mins of silence go by - and he says, what now, you're gonna make kits for this bike and trash us on it too. I freaking burst out laughing.

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Quote from: The Buddha on April 25, 2020, 09:29:29 AM
Man this still sounds rich - can you drop to the next smaller jet you got - benchmark it the same way - but if you have a 130 or 132 from those same DJ clowns - try that.

BTW did I tell you about the time I called DJ ?
This was 2002/2003 - I was simply jetting+Kitting 100+ GS'es a year on this forum as well as the old version of this forum, thoroughly trashing DJ all the way.
Then one of my purchases a nighthawk 650 turned out to have a DJ kit in it and I was having some problems.
I call them to see what their next up size was - and when I told him my name - they went icy.

Then 2 mins of silence go by - and he says, what now, you're gonna make kits for this bike and trash us on it too. I freaking burst out laughing.

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oh right 😁. Nah dont know history of dj kits related to you, just showbiz mentioned few years ago that they got a negative relationship here, no doubts why. 128 is the next ive got, which is for stock pipe or air box. might try that tomorrow. Should have asked here before buying that kit 😄 100usd for problems, but cant say, it feeled much sportier after those needles.

No 128 is too far down. 132 would be a good one to try.
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Quote from: The Buddha on April 25, 2020, 10:47:39 AM
No 128 is too far down. 132 would be a good one to try.
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ok, well went for 128 and it felt much better, rev up to 10k. but WOT accleration is boggy, feels like it acclerates only with half of power, bet 132 will do it, or 130
Also idle is bad, might because its freaking cold outside and takes more time to heat up to normal temps.. still didnt idle properly after 40min of hard drive.
Something wrong with right cyl too, didnt fire for few mins on cold startup, took air filter off during it ran on one cyl and sprayed brake cleaner in there It worked.

Then... brake question, during winter i dissassembled rear caliper and cleaned&painted it, now it wont push that piston enough to 'lock' the rear wheel, like it did before, only comes out like 1-2mm, which barely touches the brake pad, bleeded it properly, even put some pressure thru the bleeding screw to move the piston closer to the pad, what could have happen there? Managed to get some break power there after few hours of work

Yea 128 is too small, but you need to bench mark what it means - 132 isn;t a mikuni size, its 132.5 - you start putting random numbers in here - I really have no idea what you're talking about.

Right cyl didn;t run and you sprayed brakleen where ? in cyl ? in carb ? No idea what it did, but if you think it fixed it - well so it fixed something.

Mains have to be set before you start down the line - dont even worry about idle - in a way you have to run 40 pilots and run the float within 1-2mm of the top of the bowl. You have very few real adjustments. Get the mains right, after which all there is iarewashers for the needle and airscrew turns.

BRear rake - you may have somehting plugging up the line - or you could have paint in the way of the piston. I have never painted calipers, in fact I barely took 1-2 of em apart in my life. Someone knows it better would hopefully come along to explain that one.

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Quote from: The Buddha on April 27, 2020, 05:34:26 AM
Yea 128 is too small, but you need to bench mark what it means - 132 isn;t a mikuni size, its 132.5 - you start putting random numbers in here - I really have no idea what you're talking about.

Right cyl didn;t run and you sprayed brakleen where ? in cyl ? in carb ? No idea what it did, but if you think it fixed it - well so it fixed something.

Mains have to be set before you start down the line - dont even worry about idle - in a way you have to run 40 pilots and run the float within 1-2mm of the top of the bowl. You have very few real adjustments. Get the mains right, after which all there is iarewashers for the needle and airscrew turns.

BRear rake - you may have somehting plugging up the line - or you could have paint in the way of the piston. I have never painted calipers, in fact I barely took 1-2 of em apart in my life. Someone knows it better would hopefully come along to explain that one.

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Yeah, 132.5 incoming atm, should do it. TBH idk what i did with the right cyl, spayed it in carb, its not first time that it wont fire on first start after emptying carbs, but when it gets going it works normally on later startups.. Probably something related to float.. WELL i'll post when i've got right mains inside and tell how it turns out 

If its on side stand - your left float will fill first due to gravity. You waiting long enough after putting it in prime ? Its not a switch - its more like a drip drip drip.
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Quote from: The Buddha on April 27, 2020, 06:09:21 AM
If its on side stand - your left float will fill first due to gravity. You waiting long enough after putting it in prime ? Its not a switch - its more like a drip drip drip.
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jeez, got the jets but its fkin snowing outside, well, tmrw then. oh, and i dont trust the side stand enough to use it, after i put in a katana shock it raised the tail so its unstable on side stand, gotta weld some extension 😄

Make sure the side stand extension cant slide off into the side stand when the welds fail (in shear). That is very common - Use a piece of rebar and put enough weld nubs so it cant slide in. You really cant prevent the shear forces and welding for shear in that location - well its more like a mechanical grinding grooves etc to make sure its in tension and not shear.
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Quote from: The Buddha on April 29, 2020, 07:42:09 AM
Make sure the side stand extension cant slide off into the side stand when the welds fail (in shear). That is very common - Use a piece of rebar and put enough weld nubs so it cant slide in. You really cant prevent the shear forces and welding for shear in that location - well its more like a mechanical grinding grooves etc to make sure its in tension and not shear.
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ok, i bear that in mind. Got the rear brake work! finally figured the whole system out and adjusted it so that theres no slack and brakes immidiately when i put pressure on the peg. Also chaned brake fluid. was pretty dark comparing to new fluid 🥴

so.. after new jets and fuel hoses it started to drip gas from airfilter, knew that the needle seats have jumped out again, and they were. so.. i have tried some o rings i found from my garage, but they dont want to stick in there, whats the right dimensions to look? this stupid press fit should be with threads..

I have these O rings somewhere - but really you can look up the parts fiche and They put the size in there if I recall. Else measure it with a Vernier and approximate it to the nearest available size.

The threads aren't necessary, in fact the 01+ has a screw and like a little bracket that holds it on - I still dont think it works any better. Oddly my favorite were katana carbs - don't know which year, they had a plastic float seat that was part of the float assembly. That was cool and so good cos the rubber stopper is worn out by the metal and people try to pull that metal out with pliers etc etc. The 1 unit float and seat set is actually held in by the float bowl - much like the float bowl in the GS is held in by the bowl anyway.

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Bought this o ring kit and found good fit rings for the needle seat, believe it was nr 4 or 5. also nr 2 was perfect fit for the float assembly 'leg'. however they are NBR, it should endure gasoline and oil, but time will tell.

So i finally got to drive the bike after days of rain, and it feels almost perfect, acclerates good, idle works! Switching to correct main jets  did it, thanks buddha for that. Hope i dont need to open dem carbs anymore for years 🥴

Btw, heard a high KLONK noise in the engine, like metal hits metal hard. It happened only once on startup, nothing happened tho, started up and ran normally.. maybe its just the age

Quote from: Meukowi on May 04, 2020, 12:37:18 AM
Bought this o ring kit and found good fit rings for the needle seat, believe it was nr 4 or 5. also nr 2 was perfect fit for the float assembly 'leg'. however they are NBR, it should endure gasoline and oil, but time will tell.

So i finally got to drive the bike after days of rain, and it feels almost perfect, acclerates good, idle works! Switching to correct main jets  did it, thanks buddha for that. Hope i dont need to open dem carbs anymore for years 🥴

Btw, heard a high KLONK noise in the engine, like metal hits metal hard. It happened only once on startup, nothing happened tho, started up and ran normally.. maybe its just the age

Starter clutch. If it keeps happening - don't wait, that metallic hammering will cause the alternator rotor to disintegrate.
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