Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum and was introduced to it due to some requests to my company, asking for a solo seat cowl to be made for these bikes. After we have received a few requests we have decided that we are going to start production on these right away. This is a picture of the solo cowl for the Katana that we have gotten requests to see made to fit for your bikes. Let me know what you think.
(http://cowltech.com/images/black%20cowl%201.jpg)
or we have the sleek version
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/Kat.jpg)
The goal of Cowl Tech is to put the manufacturing back in the hands of the bike owners. So tell me what you guys want to see made, post up pictures of items you want on your bike (or items made for other bikes that you want the same style for yours). We make items in Fiberglass, ABS Plastic, Carbon Fiber.
Also if someone could inform me the year spans for what bikes are the same fitment for products.(ie. 92-98, 99+)
Thanks and I hope that I am welcomed on this forum, and that I can help in expanding the Suzuki 500's product line.
www.CowlTech.com
hello! and welcome!
I'm sure we all will find your services very valuable.
Multiple people are looking for seats.
Personally, I would like to have a fly screen to fit my dual headlight set up on my 91 GS500. Possible something similar to the Buell XB fly screen.
Thank you,
Jeremy
what kind of prices are we looking at for these and what are they made from? I like the top
what kind of price are we looking at for on of these. I like the one on top best. Something that has a little bit of a bubble to it like the older gsxr srad's
89-00 have the same tail plastics, 01-08 should have the same tail plastics. The rear huggers will fit all years as they are identical.
Is the hugger in the second picture similar to what you would be making for the GS?
Make the hugger and the seat cowl in a affordable ABS plastic and I will buy both. Like I mentioned in the other thread, make it look factory, blending with the lines of the bike and existing plastics (F model) and figure out some way of getting rid of the ridiculus rear grab bar (Suzuki those went out in the early 90s!)and have the seat cowl cover up the gap that is left. I know it is asking alot and still be affordable but I can dream!
By the way the style on the black GSXF gets my vote. Except for the grab bar, did I mention I hate the grab bar?
Can't wait to see the hugger!
hey cowl where are you located, i may have some spare gs parts iof you need something to mock up on :thumb:
Any tail section would be a nice addition. How much are we talking for price? Also the ease of use thing is huge as well. Its no fun having to remove tons of body panels just to take off the seat. Just food for thought. Thanks for posting
Hi everyone, sorry I havn't had the chance to reply. Alright so here is the big question, what years have the same seat? I know 88-00 and then after that, is it 01-03 and 04 + or is it just 01 + all have the same seat? We are working on a GS500F.
We started working on doing the "Racerback" style cowl for the more recent years. Which is this cowl-
(http://cowltech.com/images/black%20cowl%201.jpg)
They are going to be produced in high quality, mold injected, ABS Plastic. They will attach to your seat by 4 metal tabs that will bend around the seat, which allows it to be easily and quickly detachable, so you can get full ability of having a passenger in a matter of minutes. Who all is interested in this Solo Seat Cowl?! These cowls will be set at the same price as our others, $159 plus $25 shipping.
What we will do is offer this cowl to the first 10 buyers at $159 with FREE SHIPPING.
Please check our website for information on how the cowls attach and pictures of the quality! http://cowltech.com/faq.php (http://cowltech.com/faq.php)
We don't plan to stop here, but we do need requests, pictures, and other members thoughts on whether they agree or not. (Also for what years) If there is enough of a want/need, then we will produce it.
Quote from: Cowl Tech on June 01, 2008, 05:17:22 PM
Hi everyone, sorry I havn't had the chance to reply. Alright so here is the big question, what years have the same seat? I know 88-00 and then after that, is it 01-03 and 04 + or is it just 01 + all have the same seat? We are working on a GS500F.
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89-00
01+
Thanks, well then there you guys have it, the first cowl will be for the 01+ GS500F.
I`d be very interested in one!
post up some pics once you get some so we can get an idea of how it will look. i think this will be a great addition to the GS aftermarket
I'd also be interested in one, but would like to see a pic first.
Is anyone on this forum with the 01+ bike from the Los Angeles, CA area?
Also who is all in favor of removing the grab bar?! We need a consensus here on what you guys want or don't want.
Would everyone who wants to purchase one of these bikes be willing to remove the grab bar and have a cowl that goes on, or a cowl that will fit with the grab rail on so there is no need for removal? Thanks
I dont use the Grab bar , but if ur making Solo Seat cowls , the grab bar is for a passenger to hold on to , where as ur trying to get the look of the sporty solo tail ,
i would have it so u take it off , because it takes a few minutes to put on or off.
i already took my grab bar off haha, i just like the way it looks without it better.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/chinese-food/DONE2-1.jpg)
GET RID OF GRAB HANDLE!!! :D :thumb:
Quote from: darb85 on June 02, 2008, 02:39:28 PM
GET RID OF GRAB HANDLE!!! :D :thumb:
Doesn't look good on the old style.. there is a big hole there :icon_rolleyes: I got all excited and went out and took mine off... looks like poo :2guns: Had to put it back on :icon_rolleyes:
Please get rid of the grab bar!
I officially put my name first on the list for the cowl, let me know if you need a deposit. Please tell me it will be black!
Oh yeah one more thing, get rid of the cheesy grab bar and come up with a way to cover up the cutouts left by removing it. Thanks.
+1 for removal of grab bar, I have mine removed on my F already as well. Very interested in the cowl when it becomes available for purchase.
+10 My Grab Rail's already gone.
When can all us pre-01 E owners expect a some attention? :icon_mrgreen:
Alright, we are going to do the seat cowl as requested for the 01+. It will cover the area of where the grab rail would have been, and cover up the area where the grab rail use to attach. We are taking orders starting now!! We need a 10 person buy in, we will do for those first 10 people, the cost at $150 shipped within the US (Message me about International Shipping).
Take advantage now!! We will raise the price back up after the first 10 orders. They will be made in high quality, Mold Injected ABS Plastic.
We will take on other requests still, and we won't forget about the pre 01 bikes, but this is the foot in the door for seeing how this bike will work for us. If you are interested, please PM me, and let's get the GS500's the attention they deserve!
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
Can't wait to see pictures.
i would seriously consider being one of the first to buy in if i could get a picture first. :thumb:
for me personaly the pics on your side do no justice for me cuse both the bikes are fugly. even tho I dont have the GS rear anymore I knoe someone that does and he may be interested but I wint place an order till I see a machup of some sort.
Well is there anyone in the Los Angeles area? We are currently working on production of both models, both the sleek and the race style. Let me know if anyone is interested in this before we get the first 10 orders. We are going to fit it to match up with the bike, and fit on your seat and cover the area for the grab rails as requested. thankyou
150 bucks plus the 20 dollar shipping is a little much. I'm posting my pics today of a cowl that allows no removal of the grab rail that will be alot more affordable. These cowls they have will be gel-coated and white so please consider the expense. Watch for my profile today for pics and I will show you mine. Leave yourself options
Ours works with, or without the removal of the grab rails. When you say that yours are gel-coated, that tells me that your making them in fiberglass. These are ABS Plastic, the same high quality that is used to make your factory fairings. Can we assume that you are hand laying this fiberglass? Right now we are going to offer the sleek cowl as well as the racer cowl. Thanks for the reply
any way you can do something on the computer thats shows how they will look on a GS?
Quote from: mach1 on June 08, 2008, 09:46:57 PM
any way you can do something on the computer thats shows how they will look on a GS?
Agreed, kind of difficult to commit $150 to something when you don't even know what it's going to look like.
Quote from: Cowl Tech on June 08, 2008, 09:26:00 PM
Ours works with, or without the removal of the grab rails. When you say that yours are gel-coated, that tells me that your making them in fiberglass. These are ABS Plastic, the same high quality that is used to make your factory fairings. Can we assume that you are hand laying this fiberglass? Right now we are going to offer the sleek cowl as well as the racer cowl. Thanks for the reply
What kind of process do you use to make them? Just curious since I work for a plastic injection molding company. I know the costs of tooling so the price is reasonable.
We are working on getting a computer generated image while we are in the process of prototyping.
But yes our products are Mold Injected ABS Plastic, using a strong solid metal molds allowing for a clean and consistent part to be produced each time. Thanks for the replies so far!
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
don't forget about the huggers!
Post a picture of a hugger on a bike for how you want it to look, and will get a consensus. We do need more participation to get these parts going. Comment on products, post pictures of what you want, start stating whether you like the idea or not! The more posts the better!
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
i would be really interested in this and so would alot of other people. Just please dont get discouraged and not produce them because people are really gonna want to see a picture before commiting 150$ to a unseen cowl
Indeed - an image speaks louder than words!
Even a CG mockup. I wouldn't commit to buy, without at least a vague idea of how the finished product will look.
I must say though, its nice to see someone willing to listen to the needs and ideas of customers. That's too rare these days :thumb:
We have someone working on that as we speak, we should have a photoshop image to post up sometime tomorrow for everyone! Thanks and please post pics like I stated about what your looking to get. THanks!
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=23330.0
this thread shows a hugger made for the GS hope this helps I would get a hugger if its an easy install :thumb:. dont really need a cowl since I have an r6 tail and cowl.
A hugger would be cool, but wouldn't work for those of us with a kat rear wheel. :cry:
hmmmmmmmm maybe make it fit a 160 tire off the back
Quote from: mach1 on June 10, 2008, 05:49:34 PM
hmmmmmmmm maybe make it fit a 160 tire off the back
That would be nice, I'm not going to request any parts be made though. I can't afford to put that kind of money in to my bike right now. I would like to get some rearsets though.
I have a Bandit 400 hugger , and it takes a 150 tire fine , would take a 160 maybe
Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 10, 2008, 05:58:03 PM
I have a Bandit 400 hugger , and it takes a 150 tire fine , would take a 160 maybe
It bolts up to the gs swing arm? My 160 is really wide, my next tire will either be a 150 or a different brand 160 that is more narrow than my current one.
It does with slight tweaking , and a cable tie on one side,, which u could JB weld a tab on there, but otherwise looks sharp
Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 10, 2008, 06:57:28 PM
It does with slight tweaking , and a cable tie on one side,, which u could JB weld a tab on there, but otherwise looks sharp
Cool, I might look in to that over the summer.
any updates?
im kind of looking forward to a seat cowl :thumb:
Man, this died quick!
wow, waiting to see the pics. Where are they :cookoo:
Hey everyone sorry about the delay, we have been working on the prototyping of the sleek cowl as we have already started receiving orders But here is a few designs that shows our concept cowl, what one does everyone like?! Comments, suggestions. Yes it's just to give an idea of how it would look, we don't want to create something until there is a consensus. Let's blow this forum up once again!
(http://cowltech.com/images/designs/gs5001a.jpg)(http://cowltech.com/images/designs/gs5001b.jpg)
We will have an image of the sleek cowl, but as we stated in the beginning page of this post, it is what is on the red bike on the front page.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
Second Pic FTW!!
Yea , it has to be Really slim , because the Tail is small , and as u dont have to worry about the grab rail , if its big , then it will look wrong
Second is better too :thumb:
Will these fit a +01 GS500 (the naked version) :dunno_white:
cheers
bundy
ps got any idea what international shipping will be on these
2nd is better.
And yes theres no difference from new model E and F rear end, so it will fit the naked ;)
Thanks, yes as "TheTazZ" said, it will fit E and F models considering they are the same rear, and seat.
GI_JO_NATHAN - FTW? Sorry not familiar with the lingo.
Jay_wolf
"Yea , it has to be Really slim , because the Tail is small , and as u dont have to worry about the grab rail , if its big , then it will look wrong"
What do you mean by this? Are you saying that the second pic is what you would want as well, or giving an opinion on it?
So as far as I see it so far we have a consensus so far for the second pic which takes on the whole rear of the seat and extends ALL the way to the rear of the seat. Who else has their opinions on this? Any suggestions about how it looks, or what else needs to be done? Let's get some more feedback!
Should have a pic of the slim style sometime today as well, but as stated, it will be like the red one on the start of this topic.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
The first one is way to big, much like a Hump , the second one is sweet , if it stays like that ill defo have one ,
remember ur going to have to cover the gap that the Grab rail Leaves When u take it off , otherwise i think these are going to be a massive hit !!
Quote from: TheTazZ on June 16, 2008, 08:54:21 AM
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And yes theres no difference from new model E and F rear end, so it will fit the naked ;)
WRONG.
The E and F are NOT the same.
E: 89-00 are the same.
F: 01+ are the same. F is actually 04+ but only with the addition of front fairings.
My Ahem Paintbrush Skills gave me a Rough Idea , I like
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u148/James_Jay_Wolf/14062008600.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u148/James_Jay_Wolf/CowlTechSorta.jpg)
Needs to sit flatter tho , so it doesnt stick out so much
Ok the second pic of the cowl tech proto is close but should hug the seat more, reduce the overall height. I would like one to mimic the shape if the seat, so that it has a very low profile and slim looking from the sideview of the bike. Think less Busa and SRAD looking, haters on this site already have a hard time dealing with the look of a F model, dont want to send them of the edge. :cheers:
i really like the second one.
any idea on how long until actual design and production starts?
Quote from: Cowl Tech on June 16, 2008, 09:25:14 AM
GI_JO_NATHAN - FTW? Sorry not familiar with the lingo.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
For The Win!!
i thought it was F..k The World
me too. As far as the cowl goes the second looks find but it need to follow the side fairings a bit more kinda like this
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8351/cowluc9.jpg)
Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 16, 2008, 02:51:51 PM
i thought it was F..k The World
Depends on the context I reckon.
Quote from: mach1 on June 16, 2008, 05:48:39 PM
me too. As far as the cowl goes the second looks find but it need to follow the side fairings a bit more kinda like this
That's a thought.
The version i did , it needs to be flatter and i think would be perfect
no jay your wrong your all wrong mine is the best make that and they will sell like hotcakes
If u look at mine .. a Flatter one .. is Your Design , i think ur spot on , i think it would look awesome
Mach1's design is the freakin money! Make those and they will buy! Dude you rock! O0 :thumb: :cheers: :icon_mrgreen:
I agree , i couldnt edit mine flatter , i think yea , a simple colour coded cowl , that eliminates the Grab bar , sorted
even tho im not going to need one I want all the board members who want one to have one that looks fun bags and yeah I took your idea jay and cowltech and ran with it. Im also going to try with the older bikes but well see.oh and the color cant be black maybe a primer grey or for extra painted to match the bike
Mach are you saying you are going to make these cowls?
Well i took there one , and made it longer , but dont like the SRAD style hump either, cowltech , id say built Mach's ,
Thats all we want
huh I can barley even finish my bike, my baby is about 2 or 3 months from poping out and free time is all but gone for me. BUT if i had the time and know how I would build them but Ill give CT my design free of charge
definantly mach 1 design i know ill buy one if thats what it looks like. Dump the srad styling theres a reason they dont make them like that anymore :laugh:
I think IF done right the SRAD style could look good on the GS but it has to follow the line on the bike includes the seat tanks rear fairings ect. made to look stock
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u148/James_Jay_Wolf/CowlTech2.jpg)
The More Flatter Idea , Just a Simple Cover
Someone used to make those but the thing about those are they dont stand out as a solo tail maybe an 11/2 or 2 inche above the pillion seat.
James G . but his was fibreGlass , These are going to be ABS injection Plastics
either way they are toooooooo sleek might as well just paint the rear seat. I would like to see it stand out. kinda like Dgyvers racing tail but a two piece
i think the last one looks too much like a slip on cover it has to be above the pillion seat otherrwise it looks wierd. I just hope they go through with it and all this isnt pipe dreams
maybe we get a few designs and run a poll or something to get the general consensus :dunno_white:
I think all of them will be slip-ons no other way to get them to stay
yeah i know they will "slip-on" i just meant the last one seemed more like a slip on seat cover not a cowl like its fabric or something
Until they Produce and test fit a prototype , Ms paint is going to be the best :thumb:
So what everyone would like to see is cowltech's second pic slimed down?
Yip
Quote from: mach1 on June 16, 2008, 06:43:49 PM
either way they are toooooooo sleek might as well just paint the rear seat. I would like to see it stand out. kinda like Dgyvers racing tail but a two piece
what do u mean that they are too sleek??
Alright everyone, got a few more pics under consideration of the comments, let me know what you think. All images I would like to accredit to the"farva234", and we appreciate his help.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/projbike3b.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/projbike3a.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/projbike3.jpg)
Let me know what you guys think from these. Taking your opinions that is and working them into the bike.
Thanks for the input, keep it coming!! Let's get a consensus!
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
hello everyone!! i need to know what u think of my work, and tell me how it really is. without ur input cowltech wont be able to produce what u want and need. keep up with the up dates and feel free to as me to try new things. hope to hear from everyone soon.
I much prefer the lower profile as it doesn't mess with the lines of the bike
cheers
bundy
Thats the same as the one I did minus the chopness of it but thats good now start producing.
Just The mix of mach1 . Mine and the Original , i think a slim cowl is the plan
So do me and Jay get profit for fixing the look of these? Id say 25cents per cowl :laugh:
At least a Rather Generous Discount :thumb:
Lovin the low profile ones. How long do you think it would be to get one of these guys actually made?
thats perfect start production :cheers:
Quote from: mattj0206 on June 17, 2008, 01:55:24 PM
thats perfect start production :cheers:
agreed :thumb:
+1
Alright everyone so here's the deal, it seems we have a design set, so we are going to start doing pre orders on this design (obviously we will make it flow with the bike, but the concept is there)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/projbike3a.jpg)
We are going to start taking orders for these parts in mold injected ABS Plastic with the hardware kit for install for the first 10 buyers at $150 shipped. Please PM me if your interested. We also offer paint matching as well for an additional cost, you can PM me your year and color and we can get you a quote. Also know we will show these prototype updates on here with pictures, so if there is any dislike or changes that you have to suggest, we will change it up before final product is done.
I will just be your contact for these items, my name is Rich, and will be happy to answer any questions you have. These items will soon after be offered on www.StreetBikeConcepts.com (http://www.streetbikeconcepts.com) and www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com) at retail pricing.
Thank you
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 17, 2008, 12:20:28 PM
At least a Rather Generous Discount :thumb:
I dont need a discount Im not in need of one but I would like a hugger
I will take one , but i have to see it mounted on a Gs before i pay 80 quid for it , because it might not fit right/look good etc
Put me down for one.
im with jay. ill buy one as soon as i see how it looks mounted/ how it mounts. :thumb:
Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 19, 2008, 01:01:11 PM
I will take one , but i have to see it mounted on a Gs before i pay 80 quid for it , because it might not fit right/look good etc
+2
We are currently in prototyping and production of making this cowl work and fit properly with this bike. We have already started to receive some orders, is anyone else interested in placing their purchase? As stated, we will also offer professional paint match at an additional cost, feel free to PM me for purchasing or paint quotes! Thanks and let's here some more thoughts, or feedback.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
Just keeping everyone updated, we are currently molding the prototype from the picture in order to make it fit and flow with the bike properly. We have already started taking pre-orders, and will continue to do so, only to the first 10 as we stated at the pre-order pricing. Those who have pre-ordered I will post constant pictures of the actual prototype and will take the suggestions from all members, especially those who already ordered, to shape and make it the exact way "everyone" wants. Then we can pop it into production! But just so you are aware, those who have/will order will get the full say in what needs to be done before it's produced and shipped.
Also wanted to let you know that as we stated we offer paint matching, we are now offering the paint for sale as well. Considering ColorRite is the only company that sells the factory paint for suzuki, we are now offering 2oz touch-up bottles, 1/2 pint, pints, and quarts for a fraction of the cost that they sell it at. Thanks! And hope you guys are excited as much as I am about this project.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
I cant wait to see this!
What would it cost for a 2oz touch-up bottle for a 1999 GSE (Phiolina Yellow)? Shipping?
Thanks!
Quote from: Cowl Tech on June 25, 2008, 09:40:39 AM
Also wanted to let you know that as we stated we offer paint matching, we are now offering the paint for sale as well. Considering ColorRite is the only company that sells the factory paint for suzuki, we are now offering 2oz touch-up bottles, 1/2 pint, pints, and quarts for a fraction of the cost that they sell it at. Thanks! And hope you guys are excited as much as I am about this project.
Phlolina Yellow, 2oz touch up bottle I can get that to you for $24 shipped. Thanks and let me know
Hmm, that's a 10% 20% difference between ordering from ColorRite directly ($30, shipped).
Thanks for the discount, but I'm going to pass for now. Sorry about my poor math earlier! :oops:
If it was 10% it would be 27 shipped. 0 3 6 9 12 15 18 21 24 27 30
Its 20% :thumb:
WOW!
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
My bad. My very, very, very bad.
has any one here actully used touch up paint successfully ??????? honestly I want to know I have never seen any one use it and make it look at least halfway decent??????
it works well in very small smaller than tiny applications. and thats if you do it right, I dont recommend using a brush but a touch up gun
You can get a 2oz bottle from us, mix a 1:1 ratio of reducer which will double your amount of paint. You should be able to paint a piece the size of a cowl with that paint. So you can do rear side of a tail, maybe a side, but on a given amount you can do a solo cowl with it.
And yes that is a discount that I'm giving you guys, that's only because we see that we should have alot of parts going out for this bike on this forum. Here is the Ninja Cowl we just finished
(http://cowltech.com/gallery/solo%20seat%20cowl%20002.jpg)(http://cowltech.com/gallery/solo%20seat%20cowl%20004.jpg)
Let me know what you think!? But we are working on the design specific to drawing.
If anyone does want paint, make sure to PM me so that way we don't completely take up the forum about paint requests, but we have all your colors, and color codes. Thanks
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
its hard to tell , i mean , that looks like a Well made product ,but because of the grab rail , u cant really see , and the *Hump* looks big , but right on that bike , but on the Gs , would be different , do u have a Gs to have it modelled on ? im sure a member close by would give your company a loan of there bike for a Large discount of the Cowl :thumb:
Quick somebody tell the owner a ballon is stuck to his bike! I think that thing is hideous,the tumor/hump does not blend well with the lines of that bike at all, rounded edges that conflict with right angles, the cowl shape does not taper with the seat as it flows to the rear, it actually bows out! I do not have high hopes at all now, sorry for all the negativity but those are first impressions.
This is what they wanted, let's not bash the design, but more look at the quality of the paint and the product. We have come to a design with what you all said you wanted, which was to remove the grab rail and to have it go to the full back of the tail just like our photoshop images showed. That is what we are basing our design off of, with obviously a smoother flow and following the bikes lines.
But that is a cowl we painted, to show the quality of our paint, and our workmanship. Thanks!
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
The paint looks fine for now. The curves that fight the right angles of the grab handle are just awesome design cues? And the way the hump fattens as it goes toward the rear of the tapering tail is eye catching to say the least.
Please dont tell me not to bash it when you throw it out there for a open opinion, we are not looking for something from JC Whitney ok, all of us here have a keen eye for detail concerning our bikes. If you want us to throw down our hard earned cash during the impending if not already arrived recession you better come up with a way better design. You want to see clean design work and quality craftsmanship, check out Mark Knopf's bike on this website. Now with that said, good luck and we hope to see a pre production sample/photo soon.
Opinions are appreciated, sorry for the misunderstanding, just wanted to state that's what they were looking for. We did draw ups for them as well, and now we have some that want a sleek style as well as you suggest which is why this came out. Let me know what you think about this one on it.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/lowcowl.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/lowcowlfront1.jpg)
And we are getting your cowl out ASAP! And will post pics as soon as I get pics. Thanks
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i looks efing ugly the slope in the rear is too steep and should be less harsh to follow the rear end better. the gap between the plastics and the cowl looks ugly make less of a gap amd fix the rear slope and your good.. I know I cant do platsic, fiberglass or anything like that but I can design but hey its your product not mine
Customers...
They're never satisfied and the price is always too expensive. :laugh:
im not a customer im a third party I have no gs rear on my bike so I can care less but I do know what ugly is and thats it
Don't worry I take no offense what so ever, that is their doing. You guys made your design on your cowl and so that's what gets done. That's why I gave it into your hands before production, but what you asked for is what were working on, and we can't wait to get that setup for everyone to view as well. Thanks for the input.
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I think the GS cowls will look great on the bike those kawi guys are retarded :thumb:
quality of that cowl looks great. design, well, ya know haha. now hurry up and get ours down! i want one. :thumb:
I mhoping your cowl doesnt look like this one
(http://gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/oldgallerybikes/aqg.jpg)
Mach1 how did you get that picture, from of our top secret prototyping garage!! Man guess the cats out of the bag now, haha!
Definitely wasn't planning to make the rear of the bike look heavier then the whole bike, sorry that's a little too ridiculous. Thanks for the humor!
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:thumb:. just keeping your thread alive
I have been quiet all this time, and if the picture is an indicator.... you need to shave 3" off the top.
cheers, still interested.
....anything?
any new updates on this project/ product?... just keeping it alive
We are still interested.....progress??
Should have some pictures up in the next week or two at the latest, we are doing the final adjustments working on making it eye pleasing as well as making it attach properly without the tabs. Working on keeping you up to date as quickly as we can, will get pics posted soon enough. And who is interested in a hugger made as a direct bolt on for these rather then having to modify a bandit hugger? Thanks
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Wanted to show everyone our paint process, we just got the videos up and running and working on more!
http://cowltech.com/instruction_videos.php?makeid=3&modelid=4&productid=2 (http://cowltech.com/instruction_videos.php?makeid=3&modelid=4&productid=2)
If that doesn't work go to www.cowltech.com (http://www.cowltech.com) and click on Instructional Videos down at the bottom.
Let me know what you guys think, figured I'd show off the professional paint process we have going on for your cowls as well.
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that the same process I do but I hang my parts I don't like to lay them down.
Quote from: Cowl Tech on July 15, 2008, 10:33:50 AM
Should have some pictures up in the next week or two at the latest, we are doing the final adjustments working on making it eye pleasing as well as making it attach properly without the tabs. Working on keeping you up to date as quickly as we can, will get pics posted soon enough. And who is interested in a hugger made as a direct bolt on for these rather then having to modify a bandit hugger? Thanks
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
I am VERY interested in a hugger made for the GS!!! :thumb:
As per my email to you guys at Cowltech, interested in the cowl for sure.
The hugger would also be of interest to me.....as long as it (and the cowl) both fit a K7 GS500F ...
Sounds good though. Looking forward to the pictures....
Any sign of these cowls yet anyone???
Havent heard much for a while on this now.
How about an Undertail kit? :)
Hey everyone, sorry to leave you guys hanging but we have been working hard on making this prototype work and fit correctly before finalizing the mold. We like to take care and consideration in making our mold correct the first time so that we have no imperfections in the mold which makes it easier for everyone including us for the paint process and install. We have also been working trying to figure out the proper way to mount it, we have concluded that where the seat and the cowl meet we will have two straps, but to the point of where the cowl goes all the way to the rear, we are having a tough time figuring out the best way to attaching it. If you all want this product out quicker, and would rather figure mounting out yourselves on this forum then that is doable. Otherwise give some suggestions, or the thoughts.
Thanks
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Hey man, I checked out your website a while back; there's an error on your "Contact Us" page. The phone number you show has only NINE digits, instead of TEN, so I don't know how anyone is ever going to be able to call you.
Here's the number you have listed:
877-467-228 ext X
You might want to have someone fix the numbers on that page, since the error is repeated three times.
Not trying to bust your balls; I just wanted to make you aware of the problem, so someone will correct it. Obviously, I can't CALL you to tell you about it... Good luck with the GS500 seat cowls and huggers; you won't get rich selling them, but I'm glad you guys are willing to produce something for the little Gisser... I think there are more than enough GS500s on the road to justify the expense and aggravation of cranking them out. If you're able to begin mass production, and can find a European distributor, you might actually make a few bucks. Due to the tiered licensing system used in other parts of the world, the GS500 has a strong following on the other side of the Atlantic, and elsewhere...
I reckon the fittings need to be sorted before the cowl is released etc...I dont fancy no easy way of mouting the cowl, especially with the price being quite high-ish - wouldnt want to get it and it fall off, due to being improperly mounted...cheers.
Sorry about the number, but the number it posted largely in the header, it's 877 467 2289 and will make sure we get our webmaster to fix it. Also we should have pics of the product by the end of this week, so make sure to keep watching.
Thanks
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Mold is completed, will have pictures by this weekend!! Please check back to keep up on the updates, and are working on pricing if we can get a first initial group buy on it. I'll get back to you on that here in a few as well. Thanks
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Any photos yet?
Hmmm... ???
Seems like a reliable company you have there ??? Dont ruin your name right off the bat by making promises and not keeping them.
:cheers:
i am down for one too. but like the rest, i will need to see the finished product. seems like they want a big pre-production order to get things going. :nono: you need to make the product, then sell it, not the other way around. i do commend you on making products for the red-headed step child bikes. i think you can find a lucrative niche market making parts for the bikes the rest of the aftermarket else passes over. :thumb:
Alright Alright, ease up I did promise pictures, I will get higher quality pictures here hopefully by the end of today if I don't have any problems with the camera. But until then here are some quick pics.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/imagejpeg_2.jpg)(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/imagejpeg_4.jpg)(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/imagejpeg_3.jpg)
And let the post start up once again.
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Looking forward to those additional photos but this sneak peek isn't bad! :thumb:
When you take the higher res photos, can you take some against a blank background. Maybe a wall or something so we can see the lines of the cowl better. Also, some full bike shots so we can get the whole effect. :icon_mrgreen:
Thanks!
Those are looking good.
2 Questions..
1. How does it stay put?
2. How much will it cost?
I can't wait to see some pictures of the rear hugger!
Here is what we are offering in terms of costs. If we get a 15 person group buy, we will do $140 shipped to the Continental US (International Shipping Contact Us), We will then offer paint match services for an additional cost.
In terms of attachment, they will attach by two straps, one towards the front of "rear seat", and one towards the rear of the "rear seat". Let me know what the verdict is, and if we are going to get our 15. Thanks and hope everyone enjoys!
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As per the above, will the straps be hidden from sight, under the cowl itself or will these be on show for all to see?
Obviously, if the straps to attach the cowl to teh seat were hidden, it would look far more effective...if you have any pics of this part of it, and as others say, the whole bike with the cowl on, this would be good....
Cheers.
Regards to getting the 15 - I would be interested as per my previous posts etc if the straps are hidden and not obvious to the eye. I'd also need a timescale of delivery etc before purchase and some higher res/full size photos but in principle, i'd be interested in the cowl, unpainted, just left white ready for my own decals to be added.
I think it looks great and would definately be interested in one....if you wont be able to see the staps
1st and foremost, that looks really good.
couplea questions:
so this straps to the seat, right? So when I unlock the seat, it'll come up with it? have you, by chance, checked to see if the helmet lock still works?
id be down for 140$ shipped. i just wanna see some wider angle pics. ya know, to get the feel of what the bike will look like as a whole with one on it. (im very picky about my GS if you couldnt tell)
definitely put me down for one. i have the pearl white colored tail. how Much pre-painted?
Dang.. 140? I'd have to reach deep..
Count me in , Im in the Uk tho , i will go with my undertail perfect!
Here you go everyone, sorry it took so long with the camera ran out of battery yesterday before taking the pictures. But start firing this post up again, comments, suggestions, and we always of course love praises! Let us know if we are going to have the 15 people interested.
And to answer the other questions, the straps will be mounted to the inside of the cowl, and will extend under the seat (Straps extending outside the cowl...would defeat the concept, we wouldn't do that to you).
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/DSC00711.jpg)(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/DSC00707.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/DSC00713.jpg)(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll89/CowlTech/DSC00717.jpg)
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I'm guess you would have to remove the metal hand grip for this to work?
That looks pretty dang good! :thumb: :thumb:
Cowl Tech - if you can, you should try to borrow someone's F model to put that thing on and photograph. Since that cowl's for the 2001+, the majority will be for GS riders with fairings. Not all, but most. Just a thought.
(So when are you going to start working on one for the pre-2001s? :icon_mrgreen: )
Quote from: pronator on August 13, 2008, 03:31:39 PM
That looks pretty dang good! :thumb: :thumb:
Cowl Tech - if you can, you should try to borrow someone's F model to put that thing on and photograph. Since that cowl's for the 2001+, the majority will be for GS riders with fairings. Not all, but most. Just a thought.
(So when are you going to start working on one for the pre-2001s? :icon_mrgreen: )
Yep - I'd love that too and based on the design shown above, here's my earlier Photoshop addition to my own GS500F....
The cowltech Cowl look a tad higher but gives an overall impression I think of how it'd look...(I tinted the cowl blue so it can be seen but as my bike is white, it'd be slapped on "stock" i.e. the plain white colour the cowl comes in (I assume it does come in white???) and then add some decals...
Photo removed.
looks good. :cheers: I see no need for pics on an F model ??? It looks the same as an E, just imagine some plastic crap straped on the sides of that pretty naked bike 8)
Quote from: scottpA_GS on August 13, 2008, 05:12:19 PM
looks good. :cheers: I see no need for pics on an F model ??? It looks the same as an E, just imagine some plastic crap straped on the sides of that pretty naked bike 8)
Or, imagine a good looking faired bike minus the good looking fairings which enhance the look of the naked bike AND keep off the wind and rain :thumb:
Quote from: scottpA_GS on August 13, 2008, 05:12:19 PM
looks good. :cheers: I see no need for pics on an F model ??? It looks the same as an E, just imagine some plastic crap straped on the sides of that pretty naked bike 8)
Ha! :laugh: :laugh: I'm with you there, Scott. I ride naked, too! :icon_mrgreen:
i like it. alot. i guess ill start off the list of people wanting one. copy and paste it as we go till we get 15 people.
1. Bluelespaul
Bluelespaul I appreciate you starting it off, yes obviously imagine it on your bike, especially once painted! They will come in the color you see there unless of course you want us to paint match your cowl for an additional cost. We decided to keep it low profile as requested, so please do as Bluelespaul has started and take your name and reply with copying the names in front of you so we can get our numbers setup and we can get these going for ya'll.
In example:
Copy
1.Bluelespaul
2.
3.
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so how much does color matching add to the price?
Hey Cowl Tech, since I paid mine in full 10 weeks ago (after so many misinformed info. and avoided phone calls) can I get mine shipped now, by the way i was charged $159. plus painting over the phone 10 weeks ago, it looks like I was over charged if your charging $140 here.
How many inches of seat from front to back does this cowl leave?
Karry
fatboy420-Please elaborate on what your question is asking so that I can answer it properly. The cowl starts where the hump flattens out on the start of your "rear seat" and extends all the way back as shown in the picture. Let me know if that helps you.
Brighteyes67- Once we start getting the people setup for the group buy (which is an offer only on this forum, as a thank you for letting us help you with your bikes), we will gladly refund you the difference in pricing, being a member of this forum, and knowing that we were custom making this part as a request, and that you were pre-ordering. Please feel free to PM me so that we can get you information regarding when you should be receiving your cowl.
For everyone looking to get theirs painted we have the paint codes associated for your bikes, I will post the list right here for you so it's easy to find and identify:
2001 GS500
Code Color Name / Stages Comments
YM7 Metallic Abyss Blue / Single Dark Blue/Navy Looking
YC2 Candy Grand Blue / Three Pearl Blue (Check youtube.com/cowltech (http://youtube.com/cowltech) for Katana Paint Process) it's the same blue
13L Bright Silver Metallic / Single Frame Color
2002 GS500E
Y7L Saturn Black / Single
13L Bright Silver Metallic / Single Frame Color
2004 GS500F
YC2 Candy Grand Blue / Three
OJW Pearl Still White / Three
Y9H Pearl Lively Yellow (Factory Variance Color) / Three
2005 GS500
YC2 Candy Grand Blue / Three Blue/White Model
OJW Pearl Still White / Three Blue/White Model
YD8 Metallic Sonic Silver / Single Silver/Black Two-Tone
Y7L Saturn Black / Single Silver/Black Two-Tone
2006 GS500
YBD Pearl Splash White / Three Blue/White Model
YBA Pearl Deep Blue #2 / Single Blue/White Model
YD8 Metallic Sonic Silver / Single Silver/Black Model
Y7L Saturn Black / Single Silver/Black Model
2007 GS500
YBD Pearl Splash White / Three Blue/White Model
YKY Pearl Vigor Blue / Single Blue/White Model
YHG Oort Gray Metallic / Single Black/Gray Model
YAY Pearl Nebular Black / Single Black/Gray Model
291 Satin Black / Single Wheel Color
YAY Pearl Nebular Black / Single Front Fender Color
2008 GS500
YKY Pearl Vigor Blue / Single
YBD Pearl Splash White / Three
YD8 Metallic Sonic Silver / Single
YAY Pearl Nebular Black / Single
291 Satin Black / Single Wheel Color
YAY Pearl Nebular Black / Single Front Fender Color
Alright everyone I tried the best I could to organize that, so for paint we are will price it based upon the stage you have, if you have a:
Three Stage - $240 Shipped (Continental US)
Single Stage - $220 Shipped (Continental US)
We do not use a wet stage paint job, this paint process includes your (High Build Primer(2-3 Coats), Wet Sand, Base Coat (3-5 Coats), Top Coat (3-5 Coats) (If it's a 3 Stage Paint), and Clear Coat (2-4 Coats). Please feel free to check out our videos on www.youtube.com/cowltech (http://www.youtube.com/cowltech) to see our full paint process/paint mixing room/and professional paint booth.
Also remember this is the pricing considering we get the 15 people setup to purchase. (Please continue Bluelespaul's lead in informing who will be joining on this group buy, and placing next to your name whether or not you want it painted)
For those in the UK, please add an additional $20 for shipping (we will ship it marked as a gift to help you individuals out as well)
Thanks and let me know any other comments/suggestions/praise and let's start racking up the names to the list, and allowing us to aid in making the GS bikes look and gain the attention that you and we feel they deserve.
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Is it just me or those that look a little funky ?
Would it not be easier and look better to have a complete seat made up instead of " pretending " that it is half a seat ?
for fucks sake we were on this guys case for over a month about it, telling him exactly how we wanted it asking for updates and begging for pics and then when he makes EXACTLY what we describe you say you think it looks weird?
even if i am the only one, Cowltech, i think it looks great and im not really sure why the other guys arent jumping on this. maybe they just havent seen the list thing yet?
Quote from: videosilva on August 14, 2008, 02:06:52 PM
Is it just me or those that look a little funky ?
Would it not be easier and look better to have a complete seat made up instead of " pretending " that it is half a seat ?
Well, this is a thread about making a seat cover, by a company that makes seat covers, not seats.
Sounds like you're in the wrong place.
And I really don't see how it would be "easier" to make an entirely new seat.
The seat cowl is made to to be easily removable, allowing for a passenger to still be able to ride with little time of converting your solo seat back to a full seat. The difference in a seat cowl compared to a full "supersport tail" is that for a full tail you have the hassle of removing all your rear fairings and then installing the new tail, and if you want to take a passenger with you, then you reverse the whole process. Either way this is for those who requested it, with the removal of the grab rail, and to extend fully to the rear, but as of right now we have a list started but noone has continued on with placing their name on it. If you have any more questions feel free to ask, thanks
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put me on the list i cant copy
HMMMMM I dont know that doesnt get my duck hard. it kida looks like a duck nose.
I'm also interested in one of these cowls with the total price now looking like $160 (this is no painting, shipped to the UK).....any idea when these will be ready to go?
1.Bluelespaul
2.mattj0206
3.NEWGS500F
please copy this above, and add the number and your name and post. thanks
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I know there seemed to be alot more people wanting these, is there a reason that we are nowhere near the 15? Something that needs to be done in order to achieve this?
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Maybe some form of indication of when the cowls would be produced and ready to be shipped would get you more names??
It would certainly influence most folk i.e. this is ready now for x bucks....folk will either say "yay" or "nae" and you will know how many of these things you can sell....
Just a thought?
Cheers...
Quote from: bluelespaul on August 14, 2008, 03:37:23 PM
for f%$ks sake we were on this guys case for over a month about it, telling him exactly how we wanted it asking for updates and begging for pics and then when he makes EXACTLY what we describe you say you think it looks weird?
even if i am the only one, Cowltech, i think it looks great and im not really sure why the other guys arent jumping on this. maybe they just havent seen the list thing yet?
Hey, to each their own. In my eyes it looks WEIRD, possibly in person it may not look as out of place.
I would be more into a Gixer sytle seat. Now that would look SHARP !!
There is NO reason why a complete seat can not be molded to size, add some foam, and wrap it. It would look better and possibly only cost a few hundred buck more.
VIDEOSILVA-if you read the front pages of the forum, the question of having a GSXR cowl with a hump was given as a suggestion, this cowl was what was created as a photoshop image as what everyone stated they would want to purchase, if everyone would want it raised higher in the front, but keep it the size it needs to be (i.e. going to the tail), then let us know.
NEWGS500F-We stated the pricing just a few posts up, and these would be ready to ship (not painted) in 3-5 business days if we had our 15. And the pricing is set under the consideration of the group buy.
Please also imagine it with color, there was a nice photshop done up a few posts back. Thanks and let's see where we stand to make this happen.
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Again a GSXR style seat would be nice. Swap with your GS seat when you want the GS look and vice verca :)
I would be interested in a GSXR style seat if one were avaible.
1.Bluelespaul
2.mattj0206
3.NEWGS500F
4.Jay Wolf Would like to add That im in the uk ,
Quote from: Cowl Tech on August 15, 2008, 05:56:14 PM
NEWGS500F-We stated the pricing just a few posts up, and these would be ready to ship (not painted) in 3-5 business days if we had our 15. And the pricing is set under the consideration of the group buy.
Please also imagine it with color, there was a nice photshop done up a few posts back. Thanks and let's see where we stand to make this happen.
I understand the pricing clearly - $160 shipped to the UK for the plain white cowl, as shown in your photo.
My point was around the when i.e. if I pay the $160 bucks now, when do I get the cowl . It seems no cowls are gonna be made until 15 names...therefore, I'd rather hold off paying the bucks til the names are on the list
...nice photoshop yep - its mine :icon_mrgreen:
Cowl tech, nice job!. I didn't have high expectations when the first pictures were put up but it certainly developed nicely. Just wondering whether you send to Australia and how much postage id be looking at.
Thanks
p.s. i think if u do manage to find a faired model, and perhaps with a pearl white coat to show the undecided/cautious forumites exactly how it would look on their bikes it would help you get some more committed customers. don't give up :)
add me on the list for a new cowl for a 2008.
Can you make fairings too?!
I wanna thank cowl tech for the effort involved in making this , its not a piece of plastic on a bike , its something that has been made with the imput of what we want ,
The SRad look would make the bike look terrable , even the Stock tail looks huge with a standerd rim on it , so why try and make it look bigger ,
this is the perfect solo seat cover and i am looking forward to it alot , its gonna make my bike look that little bit different
Thank you cowl tech
1.Bluelespaul
2.mattj0206
3.NEWGS500F
4.Jay Wolf Would like to add That im in the uk ,
5.bravencrazi
Roshan-Shipping to Australia for you we will do for $160 shipped w/out paint, if you want to be one of the 15. Please look at the pictures below to see the cowl on the bike without paint, then once it is painted (for the Katana) Paint does make a difference. I will say that if there is someone in the Orange County area with a F bike that would allow us to pop it on there for a picture. Then let me know and I'll try to work that out, but honestly it's the same bike, it's really just imagine it painted.
(http://cowltech.com/gallery/p10100241.jpg)(http://cowltech.com/gallery/resized2.jpg)
NEWGS500F-These cowls are ready to roll, we are going to make our final adjustments to the mold this week, and we can have them (without paint) ready to ship by the middle to end of next week(so end of the month). What we can do is start accepting orders, starting today, for those who want to purchase and lock in on this pricing. If we do not get the buy in, I can't guarantee where the pricing will be set at, but those who want it at this cost we will allow to take advantage of it.
*Please don't allow for the lack of color on the cowl, or the bike it's on sway your decision. Once you start seeing those with this cowl on their gs's, painted and looking crisp, we guarantee that they will sell, just like the Katana cowls. I personally can't guarantee that the pricing will stay like this, especially if we don't get the 15, so take advantage!
Jay_wolf-Thank you for the compliments, we truly do appreciate them, and appreciate everyone on this forum who has allowed us to offer our services to help make your bikes to have the same options, if not more, than the other sport bikes out there. Truly without the individuals on this board, we would not be able to give you what you guys have really wanted.
Thanks again
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Anything on these rear huggers? :dunno_white:
This is the thread for cowls/HUGGERS right?
Am I REALLY the only shmoe on here that wants one made for the GS?
1.Bluelespaul
2.mattj0206
3.NEWGS500F
4.Jay Wolf Would like to add That im in the uk ,
5.bravencrazi
6.mikedrees (painted pearl still white)
I honestly think this solo seat look on the GS buy Cowltech looks like ass and wouldnt put it in the same picture as my bike let alone on the bike. I think you guys just through something togeather in the garage in about 5 mins and said well no one else makes one so they will have to buy this one even tho its ugly as shaZam!. I truely hope your just a backyard garage company. I would be ashamed to even sell that duck bill looking "solo seat" to anyone for $160.
Quote from: joshr08 on August 20, 2008, 04:50:41 AM
I honestly think this solo seat look on the GS buy Cowltech looks like ass and wouldnt put it in the same picture as my bike let alone on the bike. I think you guys just through something togeather in the garage in about 5 mins and said well no one else makes one so they will have to buy this one even tho its ugly as shaZam!. I truely hope your just a backyard garage company. I would be ashamed to even sell that duck bill looking "solo seat" to anyone for $160.
Dude, you are a complete d!ck. You don't like it and don't want one- we get it, stop looking at it and complaining about it. You would be well advised to understand there are others in the world with opinions and tastes that differ from yours and it doesn't make it wrong just different. I must have missed that you were the official arbiter of what does or doesn't look good on a GS. You sound like one of the goddamn committees in my homeowners association that determines if a fence or paint color would look okay in the neighborhood. Here's and idea...why don't you STFU?
dont bother wasting your time on that fucktard. hes gonna go make his own thats gonna be way better than any of the shaZam! that cowltech can make.
in the mean time we only need 9 more ppl on the list. hurry up and put your name on it. i want my damn cowl. :thumb:
my only comment with all this is whats the point of a solo tail? to make the bike look like a gsxr? if they were like 50 bucks I'ld maybe buy one but 160? thats to much for just a plastc cover . and there held on by a metal tab? thats going to break off after taking it on and off a few times? Honestly if your that set on the solo seat do the r6 tail conversion or buy a gsxr. Theres no good way to make a solo seat for this bike been there tried it theres not enough room to mount one and it look right and hold up. Your best bet it so buy one of these and another seat and screw it into another seat and just swap full seats. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. Also I've followed this thread pretty closely and weren't they going to be like 115?
Everyone will always have their own opinions and there is nothing we can do about that to please everyone. But for everyone to know, No we are not a backyard company, and we followed the images that were requested by members. Also the cowls will not be held on by metal tabs if you were reading, it will be held down by two straps.
Since we have this product made, and we do have a want for it right now with those who have placed their name on the list. We have decided that we will lock your pricing in at this point, considering that we will not be able to guarantee that it will stay this low. So for those who want it, please PM me with:
Name:
Address:
Yr/Model/Color(If requesting paint)
And your choice of payment option:
Paypal (If by paypal please include your paypal e-mail), Visa or Mastercard.
This way those who do want it won't have to wait, and will get it at the current group buy cost offered.
Thanks again to those who have respectfully given their opinions.
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Well I guess having my own opinion makes me a duck. sorry if i dont like something or like something i guess i should just keep it to myself. No matter what not everyone like the same thing but we all do like the gs500 e or f whatever your letter may be. Sorry for any offending that i may have done.
its not what you said its how you said it. or typed it. never the less im sure there are no hard feelings O0
I am truely sorry for what i said in all cases.
Quote from: bluelespaul on August 20, 2008, 06:36:10 PM
its not what you said its how you said it. or typed it. never the less im sure there are no hard feelings O0
Exactly, it's all good dude. Do we need to hug now?
Quote from: joshr08 on August 20, 2008, 07:17:22 PM
I am truely sorry for what i said in all cases.
its all good man, stay around, and enjoy the ride O0
thanks guys
what is the turn-around time on a painted one once i pay?
whats the time frame for one not painted?
i just gotta get my hands on my dads credit card again and we`ll be all set
You'll receive it within two weeks of payment for an unpainted one, for those who want paint your looking at approx 3 weeks to receive it.(The reason I say approx on the paint is because we paint them in groups, and allow for proper curing time) Thanks and let's start getting those orders setup then for those who want to keep their pricing set.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
These cowls are set and ready to go. Let's get those who are working up on this group buy to start getting their orders set and we can get these cowls handled for paint, and shipped for those who want them unpainted. THanks and PM us for information.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
Hello Everyone, I'm new to the site and one of the reasons I registered here is cause I'm a Suzuki rider (Katana 600) and I'm always searching sites where fellow Suzuki riders hang out. Anyway, the other main reason was because I saw that Cowl Tech is promoting its solo colwls here, and wanted to know if anyone has heard from Rich lately. You see, I've been looking for this guy for quite some time now and have had no luck in getting to him. I sent him a PM to see if we can straight things out but have not received any response, nor from him nor the "Company". The reason is that it's been more than a month that I bought the cowl from him and about 3 weeks when he indicated that my cowl was ready to be shipped out. As of now, I have not received anything from him not even a phone call with a status despite all the unaswered phone calls and messages that I have left him. I have already paid him the $260.00 that he asked at the very beginning and still nothing. When I called the "Customer Service" extension - the guy who answer said that he didn't have anything to do with it... that if Rich had it then it was upto him... in other words he told me to bugg-off (talk about "Customer Service"). I don't mean to dump any of this crap on you but all I'm trying to do here is to get my cowl or my money back and avoid for you guys to get in the same situation. I already read about brighteyes67 that she kinda was in the same situation - hopefully she was able to get hers. Like I told Rich in the PM that I sent him... "a good reference can benefit your business, but a bad one will defenitely damage it!" I know, I'm in the marketing business as well. Anyway, guys any information that you may provide I'll greatly appreciate it. And Rich, if you read this, come on guy! All I want is what I paid for!!!
thank you for letting us know
Quote from: razor5 on September 09, 2008, 09:16:46 AM
Hello Everyone, I'm new to the site and one of the reasons I registered here is cause I'm a Suzuki rider (Katana 600) and I'm always searching sites where fellow Suzuki riders hang out. Anyway, the other main reason was because I saw that Cowl Tech is promoting its solo colwls here, and wanted to know if anyone has heard from Rich lately. You see, I've been looking for this guy for quite some time now and have had no luck in getting to him. I sent him a PM to see if we can straight things out but have not received any response, nor from him nor the "Company". The reason is that it's been more than a month that I bought the cowl from him and about 3 weeks when he indicated that my cowl was ready to be shipped out. As of now, I have not received anything from him not even a phone call with a status despite all the unaswered phone calls and messages that I have left him. I have already paid him the $260.00 that he asked at the very beginning and still nothing. When I called the "Customer Service" extension - the guy who answer said that he didn't have anything to do with it... that if Rich had it then it was upto him... in other words he told me to bugg-off (talk about "Customer Service"). I don't mean to dump any of this crap on you but all I'm trying to do here is to get my cowl or my money back and avoid for you guys to get in the same situation. I already read about brighteyes67 that she kinda was in the same situation - hopefully she was able to get hers. Like I told Rich in the PM that I sent him... "a good reference can benefit your business, but a bad one will defenitely damage it!" I know, I'm in the marketing business as well. Anyway, guys any information that you may provide I'll greatly appreciate it. And Rich, if you read this, come on guy! All I want is what I paid for!!!
I'm still waiting on mine, I had ordered mine on June 6 and I have called numerous times since then but never got a phone call back nor replies to my email until I signed on here. I eventually got a hold of customer services and spoke to a guy name TIM and he had given me alot of false BS. He had told me three months ago that my order was shipped and that he will call me back with a tracking number and I still haven't heard from him. As for Rich, I was connected to his cell phone, his grandmother answered and said that Rich had got into an accident 4 days ago and that she will relay the message to him to call me back and still haven't heard from him or anyone from COWL TECH. If I can find another company that would make my cowl I am going to get my money back and take my business there.
...does any one know of any one who has gotten theirs?
Company is poo pooo...
Customer service is where it's at.. that Business 101
This makes me wonder how reparable COWL TECH really is. I had a funny feeling about this cowl from the begining. I looked at the seat long and hard and there is no GOOD way to make a cowl. The Fact is that any one can make a fancy website. But the way I see it is its not necessarily a scam but..... Even if they do send them out are they really worth me 160 dollars? I mean seriously thats alot of money for a piece of plastic with some metal tabs? The best bet so a solo seat is the take a stock seat and make a cowl and permanently attach one to it. Cause I've been around the block I know how metal works. The more you bend it the weaker it becomes. Those tabs will break. Then when your driving down the road you get the right draft and there goIes 160 dollars down the road. I'm not saying anything bad about COWL TECH but they seem to get touchy when anyone says anything about them. Which leans toward a scam. And again like I said there's not GOOD design for a removable cowl. There just isn't the clearance on the bike. Has any one else thought about this?
I'n mot buying one because it's not my cup-o-tea, however taking several months to not ship items, not giving straight answers when called, and basically not doing what they said they would really makes me want to organize a forum boycott of their asses. Hopefully nobody else has given them money...goddamn scammers!
Well, not that I'm trying to jump on the band wagon or anything, but the fact that they were pushing so hard for a group buy, and haven't responded says a lot.
guess i wasnt to far off on my comment about this being a backyard garage company. but sorry to hear that they are yanking you guys around. hope everything turns out ok
^^^Yeah, guess you called that one bro- They suck balls!
bikejunkie223 I agree with you! There are some other sites that I'm a member of, thus I'll be telling them about all this crap.
Any one else love how Cowl Tech hasn't jumped on here and defended themselves like they would do in the past?
...now here's some stuff that I was able to gather from the sales slip that was e-mailed to me for the charge of the cowl. The invoice was generated by a different company called Kitz and More www.kitzandmore.com from Brea, California but the name of the person who e-mailed me the invoice is Tim Asher who is the same guy who answers (when they answer anyway) the customer service extension at Cowl Tech. The contact numbers are different but when I called right now the number listed for Kitz and More and requested customer service I got the same voice message from Tim Asher as when I call Cowl Tech.
Now, I don't know what kind of operatin Kitz and More is running but if it is they are the same as Cowl Tech then they're just scamming peple out. Oh, and they don't answer the phones either, go figure!
Can't believe they'd spend this much time trying to scam a few hundred dollars. Thats just ridiculous. More than likely they just gave up on the group order as interest was falling. The level of customer service for those who have paid already though sounds appalling.
...okay, here we go again, I finally was able to talk to Tim since I dialed the Kitz and More number. He was getting upset because people were calling them during the weekend. I told him that they already have some pretty upset customers and crowd here and other sites and if they are getting calls at all times is because they are not delivering on their promisses. I asked for my money back and he said that they can't do that because it was a custom painted order... what I told him was that if it was already custom painted then send it to me! Now, supposely he's going to contact me on Friday to let me know exactly when the part is being shipped out. I shouldn't be given him the benefit of the doubt but I guess I will give them one last chance before I get with my lawyer.
I told him that they should check this and other sites to see how PO people are about them.
Time for one of you who has given these pricks money to file a complaint with the Better Buisness Bureau at a minimum, also a call to the States Attorney's office in the buisness' state will likely prod some results. State's attorneys like to prosecute fraudulent buisnesses
...that's right! I talked to my lawyer and he suggested exactly that for starters. For me Friday is the deadline... I do want the cowl as I ordered it but I'm not going to put up with all this bullcrap!
considering the small amount of money i don't see much hope, unfortunately
...I don't think is the amount of money that would matter much for them but the fraudalent act that should be looked at. If we go quitely about this then acts like this will continue happening - not that fixing this one will stop all others but here and there will make a difference.
If you sent payment via US Mail you can call up the Post office in his town and get the Postal Inspector's # to investigate for mail fraud
unfortunately, my payment was through a credit card, but thanks for the info on how to handle it if its through regular mail... good piece of information :thumb:
lets become an angry mob and ride out there and poke them with pitch forks and torches ha ha ha
Hey razor5, to answer ur pm question, I ride a 07 GS500F
Quote from: razor5 on September 17, 2008, 08:25:13 AM
unfortunately, my payment was through a credit card, but thanks for the info on how to handle it if its through regular mail... good piece of information :thumb:
That's better for you, call the credit card company and have them reverse the charge. Explain what happened, that they have basically stolen your money and the CC company will give you your money back.
This guy started out the same way on the cbr forums. It has been 11 weeks for me. I paid him on July 5th and been getting the same kind of run around with Tim and never able to get Rich on the phone. He also has done the same thing on the EX 500 forums soliciting people and then taking forever to send their item. I have not sen one person that says they have the part. Yet he keeps trying to reply like he is going to complete his work. He thinks people are dumb and wont talk and compare notes. Here is my current experience http://www.cbrforum.com/m_531110/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm. He is doing business on ebay as impact customs, on the net as www.cowltech.com and www.kitzandmore. I have no part no money and no knowledge of when it will be sent after asking multiple times. I will help anyone with as much info as I can. Thanks :mad:
I ordered mine back in June 6, i had called them and ask if they could make a cowl for my 07 GS500F and they said that they can make them so I paid for mine. I never got an invoice in weeks so i called and back then they were answering their phone lines, and they emailed me one. 8 weeks down the line, I hadn't heard a word by phone or email as Tim promised that he will call with updates or any type of feed backs but not one. I have called them everday for a week and finally got Tim on the phone and he told me that my cowl was already out on shipping and that he will call me back with a tracking number but never called. I again after weeks of calling finally got Tim on the phone and this time he told me that their was some changes that they needed to be made and that I will see my cowl on Friday of the 11th week, never saw or heard from anyone again. I finally got through on the 12th week and got connected to Rich's cell phone and his grandmother answered and I explained to her my situation of being jerked around with different info and that I want Rich to return my call, she said that she will relay the message and he will call me back in an hour, it has been two weeks since that last phone call and I still haven't heard from Rich. So I started texting Tim and I have finally got a reply but the same BS that he has been telling me from day one.
Tim Finally texts me back this past Friday and said that they are working on shipping my cowl and all I said was that I hope that a tracking number will follow right after because he feed me that same line last week and told me that my cowl was already being shipping with FEDEX, so I asked for a tracking or reference number and he said that he didn't have one, I told Tim that I once worked for UPS and I know for a fact that a tracking number is alway generated when a package is scanned for shipping, any ways he said that he didn't have one so I told him i was going to call FEDEX to verify that their is one being shipped to my address from owl Tech because they can check that with out a tracking number, and LOVE AND BEHOLD, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING BEING SHIPPED TO MY ADDRESS, I WAS LIED TO AGAIN.... So i text Tim telling him that their was no package coming to me and that I need my money or my cowl this week and he text me back "NO PROBLEM". So now I'm just waiting to hear back from him, then I will decide on what step I need to take because I'm tired of being jerked around.
WOW sounds like they they suck. :2guns:
Time to call on up the food chain.
I'm sure it will be no problem....for them to continue ignoring you. I'd call the local police and the the local police to them- they stole a couple hundred bucks from you...
Hey brighteyes67 and everyone else concerned with this scam. I'm supposed to be getting a call from Tim today and as of right now 2:41pm I have not heard from anyone yet. I had called him to all three numbers that I have (except his mobile) and all I get is his voice mail. I already left him a couple of messages... next one is to let him know that I'm taking legal action. If you guys are with me I'll suggest for all of us to submit our complains to BBB, local chambers, police, cc, etc. This is outrageous! Should anyone heard from them let us know.
Good luck guys!
razor5, well good luck on that phone call ur waiting for because he text me that same thing last week and still I haven't gotten that call....
I think that I had enough of BS from Cowl Tech that I called all the numbers i had and told them that if I don't hear from anyone by he end of the month that I am going to take legal action. My husband is so PO that they have been BSing me for 16 weeks from the day I ordered mine. This is the first that this has ever happened to me and It will be last. I am looking for a company that i legit and will make one for me, I have a family member that works for the Federal law office that I am going to talk to today to see what can be done about Cowl Tech/ Custom Impact/ Kits and More....
Good Luck to those of u who are in the same situation as razor5 and myself...
brighteyes67/guys, as expected I did not get any calls from Tim or anyone from any of the different companies. However, I started calling, and calling, and calling, and calling, and then calling some more until I guess he got tired of me calling or maybe since I dialed the 800 number he gets charge per call, I don't know, but he finally answered. He tried to play dumb and not knowing who I was or which one was the cowl I was reffering to... anyway I told him which one was my cowl but then told him to forget about the cowl and what I needed was my money back. He reply that I was not the only one who he need to solve the situation for since he was not the none doing the painting and he did not have a painter. I reply that as a customer that is not my foult and that I understarn a few day delay but this is ridiculos. He then said that we should be patient since he was doing us a favor by painting the cowls... the nerve of the guy, man! WHAT FAVOR, I told him, I PAID TO HAVE THE COWL PAINTED AND THERE'S NO FAVOR HERE. I repeated to him to forget it and to send my money back. He said that it will take 72 business days for my cc to get reinbursed... againg, I know this is bs. I told him that if I did not get my money by Wednesday I was going to press charges. He then got upset and told me to press charges now... then he told me that he was tired of me (or everyone else) calling him 500 times a day and during the weekends... that when this situation was over he was going to call me 500 times, "just so you see" he said. I told him that I did not care as long as he sends me my money. Then he just hanged up on me.
So, what do we see here is that some how he gets very bother if we don't stop calling or texting for that matter. If you have don't have the numbers let me know or you can get them out of the websites (kitzandmore.com or cowltech.com). Also, brighteyes67 has Tim's mobile for texting also.
Brighteyes67 let me know if you find anything from your friend.
Let's go after the guy - who btw is the owner of kitz and more. If they are going after others in other site plese warn them.
Gosh- it's really terrible you guys are inconveniencing him with the constant phone calls, of course it is an inconvenience to you to have nether the product in any kind of reasonable time frame, nor your money! F that guy! All of you should get busy signals because the rest are calling so much until he returns your money or sends the parts and gives you tracking numbers. What's he gonna do? Complain harassment? You guys have every reason to call him as customers and he can make the calls stop by doing wtf he said he would. @$$hole scammer.
...I need to make a correction on the time fram Tim gave me to credit my cc - he said 72 hours or 3 business day (not 72 days). Anyway, let's see how he delivers, I don't think he would like me calling every time all the time night and day 24/7.
OKAY!!! Here's what my lawyer just told me right now....
Since this was a sales transaction conducted through the Internet - it is then considered to be a transacion conducted under the terms specified under the Federal Commercial Law.
Now, since we (whoever else paid for it) bought and paid for an item under the terms and conditions agreed with the sales person (Rich) and/or the company Cowl Tech and its owner(s), and such item or full refund, for that matter, has not been given to us within the time frame established by the company in writing and published in their WebPage, and due to the FACT that this was a sales transaction conducted through the Internet then the recommendation thus far is for every one of us in this situation to get together and file a formal compalint with supporting documentation (transaction slips) against whoever may be responsible and present it to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
Like I said, Wednesday is the absolute deadline for me, so if you guys (brighteyes67) want to proceed with this let me know...
just wonde3ring if you guys got your cowls or your money back. Havent heard anything more about this lately.
...neither. However, I already started the documentation process and as advised by my lawyer and reported the company first to the BBB. It takes 14 days for a response and if that doesn't happen I take the documentation from the BBB where company failed to pay or respond and add it to the documentation for the FBI. I'll keep you guys posted as things progress.
Hi everyone.... I'm happy to say that my bank got my money back and that I hope that everyone else did too. They too have been trying to call Cowl Tech and still no answer. So I just wanna say GOOD LUCK....
Hey brighteyes67 - good for you!!!
For the rest of us still not getting anything yet, here's a link for you to place your complaint http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx this is a site that I got from my local Attorney Generals Office. Basically what they say is this:
The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA).
IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient and easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of suspected criminal or civil violations. For law enforcement and regulatory agencies at the federal, state, local and international level, IC3 provides a central referral mechanism for complaints involving Internet related crimes. read more >>
Anyway, I had already filed my complaint with the company local BBB in Brea, Cal. and now I just submitted my complaint to this IC3 Office, it is easy and fast. You should try it and keep it handy if you should ever get into situations like this through internet purchases.
I hope this helps.
Hi everyone,
This is Rich your contact from day one. I have not gotten a chance to read through the posts that I have missed, but I have heard that there have been issues with people getting their orders and contacting us. I want to be completely honest with everyone on this forum and let them know that those who tried to contact us, or who wanted their cowls painted were not be ignored, nor screwed. I am the only one in the company who has been the contact to this forum and it's members. I also own the paint and body shop, and handle those cowls once they get here (which is the location in Texas).
The reason that contact was scarce both by telephone and e-mail, is because I wound up in the hospital. I wound up getting assaulted from behind from a drunk individual who tried to show off to my ex-gf, who was with me while tailgating before a game. I wound up hitting the tailbed of a truck, and then the cement. The kid ran away right after and my ex wound up getting me to our local hospital, where the catscan showed interior bleeding on my brain. So they stuck me on a CareFlite to get me to a hospital with ICU/Trauma. Long story short for everyone, I wound up with subdural hematomas of the brain on both temporal areas; contusion to right temporal; linear fracture of the right temporal area; fractures of the left supraorbital infraorbital, zygoma, maxillary sinus, malar bone and mandible. After surgery my blood pressure increased greatly to anywhere from 150-170 over 105-120. I wound up having my jaw wired shut for a month and a half now, just had surgery this past thursday to remove it. Plastic surgery to input a metal plate for my whole cheek, and surgery for a drainage tube. I was stuck in the hospital for 2 weeks, and am told that full recovery of my head will take another 4-6 months according to my last catscan. Not being allowed to drive around, having appointments and surgeries, and what broke my heart...not being able to ride my personal bike in the beautiful weather I was missing out on.
It is because of this reason that I did not have my cell phone for quite a few days, which was dead when I did finally receive it, my ex had one family members phone number in her phone that she called. Tim was not aware of the situation until my ex went and bought a phone charger for my phone, and she was able to contact him and inform him of the situation. Until this time calls went thru to the paint and body shop, since that was not opened your calls were not answered (which I apologize for), after that, they were rerouted to our central office in california so that your questions could be answered. Even thou the phone calls were then taken care of, the paint was not, which once again is on me. We attempted to have a painted work on those that needed to be out, until our shop was able to handle it again, but those guys did not properly color match, so those are being redone by my shop now. And will be completed and painted for those who have patiently waited, and for any other products that are wanted from us when they are produced, we are going to give at generous discount cost as a thank you.
I would like to greatly apologize on behalf of CowlTech.com (http://cowltech.com). I am only one person, and nowhere near the entirety of the company, but since we started to try to offer a service to paint these cowls at the cost we offered, just to help keep your costs down so you wouldn't have to pay more elsewhere, we had to create separate divisions in order to make sure everything happened in a timely matter. I hope that the dedication I tried to show to this forum and it's members with my constant devotion to help achieve the goal of producing the type of products that you all designed for your bikes. I am basically stuck around a computer for the most part until everything is healed, so I can answer questions and give order information as well.
Sincerely,
Rich
CowlTech.com (http://cowltech.com)
Can i be the first to say..................BS. All these complaints for months, and its one cell phone from one employee thats to blame. Unprofessional. This isn't the only forum having issues with this company, you guys aren't falling for this are you? I don't need a cowl, got an R6 tail, but i'm concerned for my fellow GS'ers!! Chef
Maybe you didn't understand what was said. No it's not one cell phone, but for the cowls, the calls went to the paint and body shop in Texas, for any of you who ordered a cowl with paint have spoken to me personally, those who order without paint were transferred to our sales department which is in california. And the ninja ex, and cbr are the other forums associated. The cbr forum was set by one individual who wanted one cowl that he created the design for, he was explained the amount of time due to the fact that it was only one cowl and it was a special order. He agreed and wound up having an issue part way through with the timing, so he was refunded. The ninja forum was explained the same thing that I explained to you.
We setup the offer of paint to help those getting cowls to have them painted at a fraction of the cost of what it would be to do it yourself or to get it done somewhere else. Those who ordered them unpainted, either while I was in the hospital received them before I even got out. It has nothing to do with the cowls, it is only about the paint work. Either way, I would not have come on this forum in the first place to talk this many pages to just figure out a design before we worked on it. That is why CowlTech got a GS just to work on to make sure the parts were perfect.
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
Hey Rich, I left you a very detail private message last night for you to review - and as you are mentioning here that you have have already sent refunds to others, please reply to my messages to indicate the status of my $260.00 refund. By showing up here again after so much time either shows good faith on your part or it just show that you don't give a sh... and want to continue business as usual. Please do what's right and send me my money back. After all, IT IS MY MONEY that you have.
Razor5,
Sorry didn't even see the private messages, but I just read it and I want to thank you for what you said. It means a lot especially where I'm at right now. I was the person who brought up the concept that the riders should be given the chance to design what they want to have for their bikes, and well since it was my idea, they gave me the chance to see if that's what riders wanted. It took alot of time to come to conclusions about products and designs, but I have tried to put my extra time and effort in to make sure that the product you all wanted, was the one to be created.
I have always been told that honesty with your customers is the best way, and that people generally understand when you keep them informed. Well I would like you all to know that I don't consider you customers, customers and sales/marketing individuals don't work this long together, I have considered you all fellow riders, and a design team. And I feel you should know how the company works over here. I am the owner of a paint shop in Denton, TX, which I'm sure you have seen on the videos. There are only 2-3 employees, based upon the type of work, and how much of it. It is a small sector that was created in order to offer "our customers" the full package and at the best cost. If you want to do the math in go get a quote of how much it costs to get a bike part paint matched, or if you were to paint it yourself and to purchase your paint matched color from ColorRite.com you are looking at:
Touch Up Pen-$15.95
Touch-Up Jar-$20.95
Aerosol-$33.95
1/2 Pint-$81.95
Pint-$119.95
Quart-$189.95
There is truly no reason you all should not know these facts. Each cowl needs to be primered, you use a high build primer, and you then need to wet sand it down. If you have a single stage paint, you only need one color. Now if you have a paint gun and reducer, then you can get a touch-up jar, and that will paint your cowl up(remember you need reducer). If you have a 3 stage paint, you will need another touch-up jar for the second color that coats on top. And then whatever clear coat you want to get. Of course you can do it without clear, but that's what we call a wet paint.
The less people, and the smaller the sector of paint, the more paint jobs that can get done, and the more of a chance to have multiple cowls of the same color ordered(allowing for us to purchase the quantity amounts of paint, so we can paint more for a little cheaper.). That was the goal of this sector, and the reasoning of it's size. I am your only contact on here because I was the one that came up with the idea, and so I was given a shot to make it work. So that is why I was the general contact for the newly created cowls because I took all of your comments/suggestions/designs and came up with the final design, and gave it to our corporate office to make it happen. Besides myself those actually making the prototypes, and then the workers who actually manufactured the finalized products, were the ones that were informed. Unless they were purchased without paint, I was your contact. There were never any problems with my personal touch, some of you even have my cell number, but since this incident the only others that would have been able to keep you up to date on the problem with paint would have been one of our painters who only speak Spanish and who don't have the key to the shop. Those who order without paint....ready to ship before it's even ordered.
I hope this is as honest as I can be, you now know why it was a small sector, and how the location was setup. Now everything is changed over, and the thought of whether or not to keep the paint sector open as come in to play. Which will solve all problems for shipping, but unfortunately will give everyone one extra thing to get done once they receive their cowl.
Thanks and I hope this helps some more, please feel free to ask questions, there is absolutely nothing to hide. I will gladly sure my catscans and hospital bills, information about how the company works, the manufacturing process, anything you want(you all designed this product, so you have a right to feel like an employee for this product).
www.CowlTech.com (http://www.cowltech.com)
Bro, I hate to say but after all this I think your rep is shot here.
Not trying to be mean just saying what I see.
Good luck with it tho.
Yeah, you really need to give these gents their money back- sorry you had personal problems but going weeks on end with no contact is no way to run a business. You couldn't have someone put up a post for you that you were jacked up and would be out of commission for a bit? Too much time has passed, and the run-around was way too crappy for anyone to take you at your word at this point. You could start building some respect back if you pay the people who got hosed their money back if they want it. I think that would say a lot. Anyway- your operation really seems like amateur hour to me and I would never do business with you based on all I have read so far. Too many scammers on the internet, and right now you look like a pretty arrogant bastard coming back in here while you are still holding the cash of people who have had to file complaints with police, state's attorney's offices, and the Better Business Bureau. Give them back their cash dude.
Rich, In case you did not get the private message here it is in the open forum... I'm including your last message and my response. Again, I need an update on my refund.
FROM RICH:
sorry I didn't even see the privated messages till now. Your cowl was to be painted black correct? I do have your black one curing as it was finished yesterday from my painters, it will be ready to ship by sunday. Unfortunately FedEx isn't open, but it would go out Monday for you, and that would be coming from Denton, TX. You and I have had conversations, and I'm sorry that the personal touch went away during this time, but since you are in TX it would most likely be to you by Wed, or Thurs. I can in fact print your slip up for you and have fedex e-mail you your tracking information and status by Sunday if you would like. I know it has been a long wait, but it's done and once cured, ready to ship.
Personally I would love to see you get the product you ordered, and would love to help if you needed anything else in the future with it at cost for you. But let me if I can send you your tracking number, and give me the opportunity to prove to you that this business is about the riders and not about scams and money. Thank you once again for your concern, I figured placing the pictures online would keep people away from the post, and i've come to learn that when you take a CareFlite, you pretty much are buying yourself a helicopter. ha.
Sincerely,
Rich
CowlTech
MY RESPONSE:
Rich, this is exactly what I'm talking about... my cowl was supposed to be painted candy grand blue NOT BLACK! If you've read my previous private message, this is the reason that I rather have my money back - basically I don't want to be dealing with the frustration anymore that the item did not come in the right color, size, or it came broken and would not have a way to prove otherwise - hence, I'll be stuck with a part that does not work and without my money. If you really want my business I will propose this to you: Credit my account back with the $260.00 dollars by today or tomorrow and once I receive the cowl and make sure it okay and working I'll send you the $260 again. I promise you - once I get the correct and useful item, I WILL SEND YOU THE MONEY! What do you say?
Quote from: razor5 on October 27, 2008, 08:13:45 AM
$260.00 dollars
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Quote from: cafeboy on October 27, 2008, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: razor5 on October 27, 2008, 08:13:45 AM
$260.00 dollars
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Bud - add to that the solo cowl you made looks (in my honest opinion, having one on my GS right now :icon_mrgreen:) the business. NO hump style, SOLID clicking fastener - perfect fit, and delivered quicksmart.
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Also, meant to add above - in case there was any confusion, I am no longer in need of a cowl from you guys at Cowltech...I now have one. :thumb:
Quote from: NEWGS500F on October 27, 2008, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: cafeboy on October 27, 2008, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: razor5 on October 27, 2008, 08:13:45 AM
$260.00 dollars
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Bud - add to that the solo cowl you made looks (in my honest opinion, having one on my GS right now :icon_mrgreen:) the business. NO hump style, SOLID clicking fastener - perfect fit, and delivered quicksmart.
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Also, meant to add above - in case there was any confusion, I am no longer in need of a cowl from you guys at Cowltech...I now have one. :thumb:
hey, where did you get your cowl and how much did you pay for it?
From me.
if you search you will see pics of it.
(http://myspace-461.vo.llnwd.net/01332/16/49/1332789461_m.jpg) (http://myspace-241.vo.llnwd.net/01332/14/25/1332785241_m.jpg)
Quote from: cafeboy on October 27, 2008, 11:23:13 AM
From me.
if you search you will see pics of it.
Yep...I got this cowl below from Cafeboy which, I just painted tonight:
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll45/newgs500f/05%20GS500F%20-%20October%202008/Cowl6.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll45/newgs500f/05%20GS500F%20-%20October%202008/Cowl5.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll45/newgs500f/05%20GS500F%20-%20October%202008/Cowl3.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll45/newgs500f/05%20GS500F%20-%20October%202008/Cowl0.jpg)
Quote from: bikejunkie223 on October 24, 2008, 10:27:42 PM
Yeah, you really need to give these gents their money back- sorry you had personal problems but going weeks on end with no contact is no way to run a business. You couldn't have someone put up a post for you that you were jacked up and would be out of commission for a bit? Too much time has passed, and the run-around was way too crappy for anyone to take you at your word at this point. You could start building some respect back if you pay the people who got hosed their money back if they want it. I think that would say a lot. Anyway- your operation really seems like amateur hour to me and I would never do business with you based on all I have read so far. Too many scammers on the internet, and right now you look like a pretty arrogant bastard coming back in here while you are still holding the cash of people who have had to file complaints with police, state's attorney's offices, and the Better Business Bureau. Give them back their cash dude.
+1000
The only way you could even begin to try to redeem yourself would be to refund all the money that you were given,
and give these people the product you promised. Because at this point all you've done is put people out, and do a lot of talking. I think it's time you put yourself out a little, and shut up and let your product speak for itself. If it's that great, and people on this site finally get some they can tell us about, you may have a shot. Anything short of that, you wont get any more business, and you might as well find another group of people to work over.
Rich, I left you a private messages...
Hey I tried to access the website and it appeared to be broken. Can someone help me. This is the rear seat cover I wanted. Let me know where I can buy it . email me back at botts_17@sbcglobal.net.
cafeboy made them and i think last i heard he still had 2 he was trying to sell
sent you a PM Richboy :thumb:
Quote from: Cowl Tech on October 23, 2008, 02:51:21 PM
Hi everyone,
This is Rich your contact from day one. I have not gotten a chance to read through the posts that I have missed, but I have heard that there have been issues with people getting their orders and contacting us. I want to be completely honest with everyone on this forum and let them know that those who tried to contact us, or who wanted their cowls painted were not be ignored, nor screwed. I am the only one in the company who has been the contact to this forum and it's members. I also own the paint and body shop, and handle those cowls once they get here (which is the location in Texas).
The reason that contact was scarce both by telephone and e-mail, is because I wound up in the hospital. I wound up getting assaulted from behind from a drunk individual who tried to show off to my ex-gf, who was with me while tailgating before a game. I wound up hitting the tailbed of a truck, and then the cement. The kid ran away right after and my ex wound up getting me to our local hospital, where the catscan showed interior bleeding on my brain. So they stuck me on a CareFlite to get me to a hospital with ICU/Trauma. Long story short for everyone, I wound up with subdural hematomas of the brain on both temporal areas; contusion to right temporal; linear fracture of the right temporal area; fractures of the left supraorbital infraorbital, zygoma, maxillary sinus, malar bone and mandible. After surgery my blood pressure increased greatly to anywhere from 150-170 over 105-120. I wound up having my jaw wired shut for a month and a half now, just had surgery this past thursday to remove it. Plastic surgery to input a metal plate for my whole cheek, and surgery for a drainage tube. I was stuck in the hospital for 2 weeks, and am told that full recovery of my head will take another 4-6 months according to my last catscan. Not being allowed to drive around, having appointments and surgeries, and what broke my heart...not being able to ride my personal bike in the beautiful weather I was missing out on.
It is because of this reason that I did not have my cell phone for quite a few days, which was dead when I did finally receive it, my ex had one family members phone number in her phone that she called. Tim was not aware of the situation until my ex went and bought a phone charger for my phone, and she was able to contact him and inform him of the situation. Until this time calls went thru to the paint and body shop, since that was not opened your calls were not answered (which I apologize for), after that, they were rerouted to our central office in california so that your questions could be answered. Even thou the phone calls were then taken care of, the paint was not, which once again is on me. We attempted to have a painted work on those that needed to be out, until our shop was able to handle it again, but those guys did not properly color match, so those are being redone by my shop now. And will be completed and painted for those who have patiently waited, and for any other products that are wanted from us when they are produced, we are going to give at generous discount cost as a thank you.
I would like to greatly apologize on behalf of CowlTech.com (http://cowltech.com). I am only one person, and nowhere near the entirety of the company, but since we started to try to offer a service to paint these cowls at the cost we offered, just to help keep your costs down so you wouldn't have to pay more elsewhere, we had to create separate divisions in order to make sure everything happened in a timely matter. I hope that the dedication I tried to show to this forum and it's members with my constant devotion to help achieve the goal of producing the type of products that you all designed for your bikes. I am basically stuck around a computer for the most part until everything is healed, so I can answer questions and give order information as well.
Sincerely,
Rich
CowlTech.com (http://cowltech.com)
For everyone's enjoyment, CowlTech is now selling their product on eBay....
I hope this means all these issues were cleared up.
I think no one here want to buy one from them after the way they did the members here in the past but well, good luck with that. :thumb:
BTW They still look like a ducks bill
I just wanted to clear things up, everyone who made a purchase from us either received their cowl or got a full refund. Our cowls are still in production and have been selling since, and we would like to thank all members on this forum for helping create this product. We have continued our expansion of cowls and have been creating new products for other bikes. CowlTech.com (http://cowltech.com) would like me to extend their apologies for the issues faced during prototyping, but would also like to send their thanks and gratitude for help in achieving another product for the GS500 community. Good luck to CafeBoy in his endeavor, and if there are any further products needed to be made please let us know.
Thanks again,
CowlTech.com (http://cowltech.com)
I got one of your cowls for free from someone on the board. They gave it away for free because it doesn't fit the bike very well. Great looking cowl but a terrible way to attach it. I painted it, made it look awesome but have yet to get it to attach securely and sit flush, its one or the other. Definitely not worth the money in my honest opinion.